Capcomplicated
The Lousy Architect
that was just my current thought, on a side note you should donate money to The Wayne Foundation, Its a 'safehouse' for sexually abused children to start or restart thier lives
What are you thinking? (Part 2)
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that was just my current thought, on a side note you should donate money to The Wayne Foundation, Its a 'safehouse' for sexually abused children to start or restart thier lives
La Femme Fatale
The Queen
Do I get tax returns on that?
Ct: I need to stop smoking when I drink. Bleh.
Ct: I need to stop smoking when I drink. Bleh.
VP-70
The Confucius of ReNews...Cheers KK.
As reasonable a point as any.
I don't think anybody on here would be stupid enough to lump them in the same box.
I don't keep my eyes on American/Candian politics so i am limited on that front. However back home, it's rabid.
Capcomplicated
The Lousy Architect
lol it is tax deductible, and i agree turns your teeth into tetris peices
La Femme Fatale
The Queen
Even if you're not American? I donated quite a large amount of money a few years ago to an American charity who said they were tax deductable... and then when the time came around I got nothing back, e-mailed them and they said it didn't apply to international contributors. Hmph.
Angel
I make good toast
The right to vote, the right to work, the right to earn a decent wage - these are all admirable things to fight for and I'm not condemning those who fought for them. My problem is with those who I mentioned in my previous post. I'm well aware that as with many groups there is more than one type included. But as I have no issue with them, I don't feel the need to mention them.
It's a muddled issue here in the UK from what I can glean in that the things you mentioned such as welfare, child care, single parenthood and domestic violence are addressed often in policy and by those in positions of power - but the balance is, to me, unfair. Women are actually often favoured in a lot of these areas whereas, bowing under the pressure from politics and women's rights groups, men are pushed down. It creates a new load of inequality which seems to only emasculate. Women get more time off when a baby is born, women get considered seriously in claims of domestic violence when men are ridiculed and single parents are automatically assumed to be female, often leaving single dads out in the cold when it comes to support.
Whether this is the result of radical feminism or not I don't know - but I see a shift which is just as unhelpful as a predominantly male-orientated society. It's as if nobody really knows how to behave anymore and so the women are led to believe they must become superwoman to be regarded as anything other than "her at home". Society is swinging from one radical extreme to another and any middle ground offered is shoved to one side as unsuitable, whether for economic, social or political reasons. There is no question that the underlying inherent structures of our society (again, I can only speak for what I see of the UK) are still leaning more towards a patriarchal regime but when certain lib groups get arsey about everything and anything, it doesn't seek to further the cause of any marginalised group, whether it be female-orientated or not.
It's a muddled issue here in the UK from what I can glean in that the things you mentioned such as welfare, child care, single parenthood and domestic violence are addressed often in policy and by those in positions of power - but the balance is, to me, unfair. Women are actually often favoured in a lot of these areas whereas, bowing under the pressure from politics and women's rights groups, men are pushed down. It creates a new load of inequality which seems to only emasculate. Women get more time off when a baby is born, women get considered seriously in claims of domestic violence when men are ridiculed and single parents are automatically assumed to be female, often leaving single dads out in the cold when it comes to support.
Whether this is the result of radical feminism or not I don't know - but I see a shift which is just as unhelpful as a predominantly male-orientated society. It's as if nobody really knows how to behave anymore and so the women are led to believe they must become superwoman to be regarded as anything other than "her at home". Society is swinging from one radical extreme to another and any middle ground offered is shoved to one side as unsuitable, whether for economic, social or political reasons. There is no question that the underlying inherent structures of our society (again, I can only speak for what I see of the UK) are still leaning more towards a patriarchal regime but when certain lib groups get arsey about everything and anything, it doesn't seek to further the cause of any marginalised group, whether it be female-orientated or not.
Capcomplicated
The Lousy Architect
oh crap i forget those invisible lines have humanity compensation laws. (that wasnt directed at you) lol i guess its the American way. But then again i always say its for sexually abused children.
La Femme Fatale
The Queen
Aww, ****. I totally lost my response to Angel's post. Alright, short version.
Women appear favoured in those policy areas because those issues are far more likely to effect women than men. When you compare the resources allotted to those policies to other typically male-oriented issues (such as employment insurance, workmen's comp, etc etc), then you can see huge discrepencies in not only the societal perceptions of these policies, but coverage. And with the domestic violence bit, alot of that has to do with the fact that society has created a social construct that impies that violence perpetrated by women is not threatening or serious. My hat's off to masculinity and patriachy for that one, not feminism.
I hate to be so broad but I just lost my response with all specific examples and I really can't be arsed to write it again.
Women appear favoured in those policy areas because those issues are far more likely to effect women than men. When you compare the resources allotted to those policies to other typically male-oriented issues (such as employment insurance, workmen's comp, etc etc), then you can see huge discrepencies in not only the societal perceptions of these policies, but coverage. And with the domestic violence bit, alot of that has to do with the fact that society has created a social construct that impies that violence perpetrated by women is not threatening or serious. My hat's off to masculinity and patriachy for that one, not feminism.
I hate to be so broad but I just lost my response with all specific examples and I really can't be arsed to write it again.
With regards to staying at home vs being in the workplace, certainly feminism is a part of that, but I believe this shift also has something to do with the fact that costs of living have sky rocketed in the past half-century - almost to a point where duel incomes are required to live comfortably, and certainly luxuriously unless one partner is rolling in dough. My mother works not because she wants to, but because she needs to, otherwise they couldn't keep with their mountain of payments.
Angel
I make good toast
My mother had to do the same - both she and my dad worked 50 hour weeks each just to make ends meet in crappy dead end jobs. The recent recession has pushed a lot of families into taking on two wages regardless over in the UK, if they are fortunate enough to find the work that is, but it seems that you can't do right for doing wrong. If you have kids and work, you're a crap mother. If you choose not to have kids and pursue a career, you're a ball-breaking old hag who probably hates men anyway. If you have kids and drop your career to raise them, you're an insipid, vacant breeding machine whose only interests in life consist of having babies and reading crappy women's magazines. Each group seems to have an issue with the others and it just serves to build barriers rather than unite women in whatever role they choose to take.
If you can and are willing to live on one wage, then I think you should be able to. Similarly if you want to go to work asap after having kids, go for it. If you never want a family then who cares? It should be about making choices, not fulfilling the expectations of others. I stay at home because I work from home and I also want to be with my kids whilst they're still little - I don't get paid in my job but it keeps me from going bat-crap insane. We just about manage on Steve's income but that is largely because we live VERY frugally and have no outstanding debt, which is rare I'll admit. If things were different, I'd be forced to seek paying work and try to cover the costs of full-time childcare as well - I'd hate to not see my children except for a couple of hours each day.
If you can and are willing to live on one wage, then I think you should be able to. Similarly if you want to go to work asap after having kids, go for it. If you never want a family then who cares? It should be about making choices, not fulfilling the expectations of others. I stay at home because I work from home and I also want to be with my kids whilst they're still little - I don't get paid in my job but it keeps me from going bat-crap insane. We just about manage on Steve's income but that is largely because we live VERY frugally and have no outstanding debt, which is rare I'll admit. If things were different, I'd be forced to seek paying work and try to cover the costs of full-time childcare as well - I'd hate to not see my children except for a couple of hours each day.
La Femme Fatale
The Queen
Yup. It's pretty much lose-lose for everyone. Anyway, I agree completely with you. Everyone should just do whatever the hell they want and everyone else needs to butt out and mind their own business. It's so irritating when people try to dictate the way you're expected to live your life. Life's too short for that crap, just do what makes you happy.
Anyway, CT - I want a Cadbury Creme Egg so f'in much right now.
codename: HUNK
Well-Known Member
oops. did I just cause a war of the sexes?
tremor
4 itchy tasty
CT: I get tired of people telling me that I shouldn't smoke weed. I've been doing it since I was 15 years old. I work five days a week. I make my money, and I don't spend it all on weed either. I'm not a "dumbass pothead" either. People really don't have any business talking about something that they know nothing about.
I'm going to do what I want to do, and I DARE someone to try and get in my way. I hope you're ready to get steamrolled.
I'm going to do what I want to do, and I DARE someone to try and get in my way. I hope you're ready to get steamrolled.
VP-70
The Confucius of ReNews...Cheers KK.
Wellllll Tremor, i have to agree.
Other than your health, i don't see why people should be concearned. It's not like you're standing on the edge of a bridge, you've made a choice and sticking to it.
I personally don't consume such things, as that's just me, i prefer to remain sharp,plus, my mother said i was born chilled out anyways so i've never had a need for anything of the kind.
People need to learn or remember that there is something called a '' private '' life, and the clue is in the title. We're getting a little toooooo nanny like these days.
Live and let live, we're all ending up face down in the dirt one way or another.
Life be too short for such noseyness
tremor
4 itchy tasty
What ****ed me off was "f*ck 4/20! Go lose brain cells and be broke dumbass potheads!" People just throw ALL the potheads into one basket..so we all become "dumbass potheads". That is incorrect. I know quite a few potheads, including myself, who are very intelligent people. As a matter of fact, they become mini Einsteins while buzzin' haha. I just wish people would stop automatically labeling people just because of what they do, or who they are. It's wrong. And this was coming from a very smart person, who should know better than to just label people that way.
So yeah..long story short, I was pretty offended by their comment
Thanks for agreeing darlin'...
La Femme Fatale
The Queen
CT: LoL Donald Trump.
LordGolbez
Well-Known Member
If You Have To Shove The Battery Into The Charger And The Light Does Not Come On That Means It's Not Working.