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Wentworth Miller as Chris...

Elochai said:
^ Well they clearly are in their own universe. That became apparent in the first movie. You also have to look at it from the actor's point of view. They only have a limited amount of time to prepare for their character. How hard do you think it would be to completely understand one person in a game series that stretches for more than a decade? All the while learning his lines, getting in shape, combat training, other roles he may have had, and his personal life. I think we should give the actors more credit than we do. After all, it's not their fault that their characters were written the way they were.
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Was it really? I mean the first RE movie could have fit in with the games just right, had RE0 not come in and make the RE movie obsolete.

It is clear now, but at the time, it wasn't. Maybe though, I mean the lab seen in the RE1 movie was under Raccoon I think, much like the one in RE2, the train was there....

@Aoshi, yeah, even if he had played the games, he could only do so much. I mean surely Miller wasn't part of the costume design, a producer, or anything other than an actor. He probably could have done more, had he devoted himself as he should have....but whatever.:)

I will say though, Richard Waugh, the guy who voiced Wesker in CVX, RE4, RE0 & narrated the Wesker's Report had some say-so when voicing the character. It was in an interview where he talked about cutting down on preachy monologues and whatnot. Of course that was with Capcom...not Anderson and the film crew, but just an example of someone in RE taking the character a bit further.
 
Magnolia Grandiflora said:
Considering the way the movies are written, I think it's safe to say that no matter who played Chris in Afterlife, he wasn't going to be the essence of Chris in the video games. Chris may have deserved better but that's not Wentworth Miller's fault, that's the writer's fault. Miller can only do what the writers allow him, what the time line of the movies allows. If we want to talk about what Chris deserved, he deserved to be in the first movie not introduced in the fourth but I still don't see how that has anything to do with the actor chosen to play him.

Many people are bashing Miller because movie-Chris isn't who we know and love but that's not really anything he can control. He didn't write movie-Chris and all he can do is try to incorporate as much of the video game as he can into the character while still being true to the script. (And for that matter, Resident Evil 5 Chris isn't even the Chris we know and love - not the one I know anyway.)

The only actors that can truly take some criticism for how bad their movie characters are, are the ones who think ignorance is bliss and know absolutely nothing about the games or who their characters really are because they made no effort to.
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Thats what i loved about Sieanna Guilroy(sp)...she played and beat RE3 to get Jill's character down...now she couldnt do it, so instead watched people do it...but in my opinon thats more than ANYone else has done for their characters...plus i've seen her in other movies and shes actually a good...not great, but GOOD actress...i can't say the same for Miller...
 
aoshi said:
^ Err i don't think movies having their own cannon is a good idea. I am not aware of cannon in games when first movie was released, If i did i am not sure if i would have enjoyed it as much as i did.After playing RE 4 and RE 5, I found later movies were way out of cannon which i was disappointed. Are movies only for people who have not played the games?Why can't canon in games be the same in movies. Only the creator's need to be questioned was my view as stated by magnolia.
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Ill put this as simply as i can in my own nerdy way...have you ever read comics? There is Spectacular Spider-Man, then there is its predecessor Amazing Spider-Man...Amazing Spider-Man would be the RE games, and Spectacular Spider-Man would be the movies...both comics run at the same time, but are completley independant of each other...Peter Parker was completley different in the two series...they didnt intersect WHATSOEVER...completley different Marvel Universes...RE is no different...The originals, the games are like Amazing Spider-Man, whereas the movies are like the Spectactular Spider-Man...the newer not quite as popular and independant version of its predecessor, while not as good as the original still good in its own ways...
 
@Magnolia, you are completely right. Miller isn't really to blame, but I guess some people need someone to blame, and Miller is probably a better choice than annonymous RE movie writer.:)

That said, when talking about Sienna, Jill from Apocolypse, she wasn't very, Jill-like, and she probably didn't play the games, but she did put a lot of thought into the character and feelings, emotions, etc. If you watch it with the commentary, she really talked about that stuff.
 
KennedyKiller said:
Ill put this as simply as i can in my own nerdy way...have you ever read comics? There is Spectacular Spider-Man, then there is its predecessor Amazing Spider-Man...Amazing Spider-Man would be the RE games, and Spectacular Spider-Man would be the movies...both comics run at the same time, but are completley independant of each other...Peter Parker was completley different in the two series...they didnt intersect WHATSOEVER...completley different Marvel Universes...RE is no different...The originals, the games are like Amazing Spider-Man, whereas the movies are like the Spectactular Spider-Man...the newer not quite as popular and independant version of its predecessor, while not as good as the original still good in its own ways...
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I don't think comics can compare to video-games with respect to wat's canon and character. Its hard to say wat's canon or not. If characters are portrayed with respect to episodes, there would be no issue.But thread's subject is if wentworth miller was a good or bad choice. I think casting crew needs to be questioned than the actors.I don't think comics have a canon, Hero always saves the day.

However, I believe games have canon which is continued onto sequels whereas comic books have new episodes and not sequels.
 
aoshi said:
I don't think comics can compare to video-games with respect to wat's canon and character. Its hard to say wat's canon or not. If characters are portrayed with respect to episodes, there would be no issue.But thread's subject is if wentworth miller was a good or bad choice. I think casting crew needs to be questioned than the actors.I don't think comics have a canon, Hero always saves the day.

However, I believe games have canon which is continued onto sequels whereas comic books have new episodes and not sequels.
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One way I like to think about it is, well, if you are an actor or actress, and the reason for this being that you either have a passion for acting or just want to be famous, it's really the only thing you have to do...I know that generalizing a bit, but it's pretty true.

I mean, it's not like they have anything better to do, why not research the character, especially if you are aware that it is a movie version of a video game character. And let's face it, who isn't aware that RE isn't a video game....and not just people here on an RE forum, but I think it's pretty common knowledge, just like everybody knows what a lightsaber is, and who is Luke Skywalker's father...it's just common knowledge.
 
aoshi said:
I don't think comics can compare to video-games with respect to wat's canon and character. Its hard to say wat's canon or not. If characters are portrayed with respect to episodes, there would be no issue.But thread's subject is if wentworth miller was a good or bad choice. I think casting crew needs to be questioned than the actors.I don't think comics have a canon, Hero always saves the day.

However, I believe games have canon which is continued onto sequels whereas comic books have new episodes and not sequels.
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Remind me again of how comics don't have a cannon...Comics are completley cannon...and a next issue in a series is pretty much a sequal...
 
KennedyKiller said:
Wanna Explaine what ya mean...in more detail i mean...
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NO!

Yeah of course. Like how the events that Becca went through in RE0, you know, July 23th of 98, weren't at all mentioned by her, or it didn't seem like she had just gone through that hellish experience, while during the Mansion Incident, July 24th, one night later. That's one example.

She just seemed like such a rookie, and she had just done all that Chris & Jill were about to do, and more. It's like she was oblivious to what was going on. UC did a good job of keeping the continuity there, as it goes over both games.
 
Spike991 said:
NO!

Yeah of course. Like how the events that Becca went through in RE0, you know, July 23th of 98, weren't at all mentioned by her, or it didn't seem like she had just gone through that hellish experience, while during the Mansion Incident, July 24th, one night later. That's one example.

She just seemed like such a rookie, and she had just done all that Chris & Jill were about to do, and more. It's like she was oblivious to what was going on. UC did a good job of keeping the continuity there, as it goes over both games.
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Well she isnt with Chris much during the first game, not long enough to spill her guts...plus as far as the rookie mistakes in RE1...shes pretty much alone, i mean in RE0 she had Billy to be with her...and we all know that when you have someone with you, you lose fear...even if its only a small amount...she probably didnt know what she'd do without him...btw July 23rd is my sisters birthday lol...and i'm not trying to make excuses for Capcom, i'm just generalizing posibilites...
 
KennedyKiller said:
Well she isnt with Chris much during the first game, not long enough to spill her guts...plus as far as the rookie mistakes in RE1...shes pretty much alone, i mean in RE0 she had Billy to be with her...and we all know that when you have someone with you, you lose fear...even if its only a small amount...she probably didnt know what she'd do without him...btw July 23rd is my sisters birthday lol...and i'm not trying to make excuses for Capcom, i'm just generalizing posibilites...
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I'm not saying she had to give Chris her life's story, just that all that had happend...well it's like it didn't. Mainly because it hadn't, according to RE1. I mean, they didn't collaborate or work in cahoots with the makers of RE0 to make their games match up, otherwise certain voices might have been the same, Richard Waugh for Wesker for instance, instead of Peter Jessop.
 
KennedyKiller said:
Well she isnt with Chris much during the first game, not long enough to spill her guts...plus as far as the rookie mistakes in RE1...shes pretty much alone, i mean in RE0 she had Billy to be with her...and we all know that when you have someone with you, you lose fear...even if its only a small amount...she probably didnt know what she'd do without him...btw July 23rd is my sisters birthday lol...and i'm not trying to make excuses for Capcom, i'm just generalizing posibilites...
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Chris might not have seen her much during the original, but she was a total rookie when you did see her; a real damsel in distress. When you first meet her in the mansion she's armed with a can of First Aid spray because she dropped her gun somewhere between the Bravo chopper and the mansion. (And having Billy with her might have been a valid point had she not kept a fairly cool head before she met him in Zero.)
 
Magnolia Grandiflora said:
Chris might not have seen her much during the original, but she was a total rookie when you did see her; a real damsel in distress. When you first meet her in the mansion she's armed with a can of First Aid spray because she dropped her gun somewhere between the Bravo chopper and the mansion. (And having Billy with her might have been a valid point had she not kept a fairly cool head before she met him in Zero.)
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We arent talking the original though...since REmake came out the original is obsolete...non cannon since REmake...
 
Magnolia Grandiflora said:
Chris might not have seen her much during the original, but she was a total rookie when you did see her; a real damsel in distress. When you first meet her in the mansion she's armed with a can of First Aid spray because she dropped her gun somewhere between the Bravo chopper and the mansion. (And having Billy with her might have been a valid point had she not kept a fairly cool head before she met him in Zero.)
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Yeah, even with the REmake, she still seemed pretty green. Rightfully so, but she should have had some signs of a hellish experience the night before.

According to UC, she falls asleep in one of the rooms in the guardhouse, to be awakened by Richard. She actually has a nightmare in that scene.
 
KennedyKiller said:
We arent talking the original though...since REmake came out the original is obsolete...non cannon since REmake...
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Sweetie, as far as I know, Rebecca from the remake isn't far from Rebecca from the original. And as for the "canonness" of the original, the original will always be canon to fans who started out playing that game.
 
Magnolia Grandiflora said:
Sweetie, as far as I know, Rebecca from the remake isn't far from Rebecca from the original. And as for the "canonness" of the original, the original will always be canon to fans who started out playing that game.
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Right, there isn't a whole lot of a difference. At all. She isn't such a huge part of either, and she still seems like a rookie.

Although the REmake is 'more' canon than the original, let's not try to make the original seem insignificant. It's still one of the best eva'.:)
 
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