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What are you thinking? (Part 2)

Jen

Girly Gamer
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Shopped for five hours for holiday clothes today. I'm exhausted, and I'm still not done. But I somewhat optimistically bought some shorts and vests - the English weather better not let me down this summer. :p
 

mjk321

Well-Known Member
When people think of Thor. They either think of

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Or

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But to me when i think of Thor i think of

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lol
 

Cheer

Kamen Rider
Here, usually not if the service is horrible. :p

Back in 2010 i used to work in Pizza Hut as a supervisor. and at rush hour i help serve the customers with the other waiters. anyway one day i served one customer and told him that his order will take 7 minutes to be ready. went to the kitchen to prepare his order and brought it to him. after he finished eating he called me and gave me 300$ for my serves.
 

Hel

Goddess of the Dead
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Wait isn't giving tips is one of the unspoken rules?

Some people, especially waiters, seem to think so, but it is not. It's just a voluntary little kindness, but congratulations on your 300$ tip! :)

Really? Here we're glared at if we don't give tips. One place I went to we had to give a tip, even though the service was bad.

What do you mean you had to? Was it mandatory in that place?
Are there actually places where it's mandatory? I know countries that forbid it, but the other way around...?
 

Cheer

Kamen Rider
Some people, especially waiters, seem to think so, but it is not. It's just a voluntary little kindness, but congratulations on your 300$ tip! :)



What do you mean you had to? Was it mandatory in that place?
Are there actually places where it's mandatory? I know countries that forbid it, but the other way around...?

Well some waiters deserve to be tipped because they go really far to satisfy a customer.

I heard that in France there is a coffee shop that charge you by how polite or rude you are. If you are really polite you can get coffee for 1.40 Euro which is around 1 USD. If you were rude the coffee will cost you 7 Euro which is around
7.72 USD.
 

Venomous Oddball

Also Known as Maddy
What do you mean you had to? Was it mandatory in that place?
Are there actually places where it's mandatory? I know countries that forbid it, but the other way around...?
They added it to the bill. Then in one place they said the "no" button wouldn't work and that we had to press "yes". We tried it out but yup, had to give a tip.
 

Hel

Goddess of the Dead
Premium
Wow... That is totally rude. If the restaurant wants their waiters to earn enough, why don't they just pay them more instead of forcing customers to tip? I agree that some (actually, many) waiters deserve to be tipped, but it still shouldn't be mandatory. For one thing it takes away the meaning of the tip; you're no longer being kind or rewarding the waiters for doing their job really well, but instead you give them extra money because you must. And for another thing, they do get paid for their work after all, and whether or not the payment is enough shouldn't be your concern. You go there, you claim a service, you pay for it, and if you're especially pleased with the service, you may show your gratitude. That's how I understand it. Then again, I don't ever see anyone going to the kitchen and tipping the cook, while it's actually their work that you're enjoying the most...
 

Cheer

Kamen Rider
CT: Human Being are really strange. One day everyone greets you with a smile. and the next day you greet them and they'll be like

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Foxtrot94

Elite Hunter
Really? Here we're glared at if we don't give tips.

I don't know how it works in other places but here, being a waiter is a job like any other. It's your responsibility to do it well, and your reward is your pay. Just like any other job. Leaving tips is left to the customer's discretion, and that's how it should be. Although I'm against it regardless. If I give extra money to a waiter whose service I liked, then I should also give extra money to the cooks if I really liked their food, for example. And it applies to any worker in any field.

What gives waiters the right, unspoken or not, to receive extra money from customers while other people shouldn't get it? Everyone is to be treated the same. Never understood the custom of mandatory tips, or tips in general.

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Oh wow, @Hel made the same argument about the cooks, LOL. Sorry Hel, I didn't want to rip you off, I just went straight to answer Maddy without reading the other posts.

By the way, the date went really well. We're settled for another one tomorrow. It's all going according to the plan... no I don't have any plan. Just improvising, that's how I like it.
 
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La Femme Fatale

The Queen
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I don't know how it works in other places but here, being a waiter is a job like any other. It's your responsibility to do it well, and your reward is your pay. Just like any other job. Leaving tips is left to the customer's discretion, and that's how it should be. Although I'm against it regardless. If I give extra money to a waiter whose service I liked, then I should also give extra money to the cooks if I really liked their food, for example. And it applies to any worker in any field.

What gives waiters the right, unspoken or not, to receive extra money from customers while other people shouldn't get it? Everyone is to be treated the same. Never understood the custom of mandatory tips, or tips in general.
In many countries, certainly here in Canada and the United States, waiters and waitresses don't receive the full federal minimum wage due to current labour and employment laws - hence why customers are expected to subsidize the wages of servers through tips. Given, rarely is it mandatory and the few restaurants that do add automatic gratuities to your bill are required to tell you prior to you ordering. I believe the average tipped minimum wage in the US is somewhere around $2.13 per hour. If if it was mandated that restaurants be required to pay their workers the federal/provincial/state full minimum wage, then I doubt tipping would be as customary as it currently is. It has nothing to do with giving servers special rights and privileges - it's more to do with restaurant owners having the unique ability to pass a great deal of their labour costs directly onto their customers instead of absorbing these labour costs themselves. ;)

Cooks get paid full minimum wages, not tipped minimum wages - which is why it's not customary to tip them although it's not unusual for restaurants to pool the servers' tips and provide a certain % to backroom staff.
 

Foxtrot94

Elite Hunter
Sleeping in the afternoon is the next best thing after sleeping at night.

Not for me. I always feel like crap after an afternoon nap. Lazy as all hell and slightly dizzy and... just bad. In the morning, I can get up no problem, and do whatever I like, but in the afternoon... jeez.

I planned to go have a run today but I slept and woke up too late to do it and since it takes me some time to recover from the crappy state afternoon naps put me in, that's blown. :/
 

Cheer

Kamen Rider
Not for me. I always feel like crap after an afternoon nap. Lazy as all hell and slightly dizzy and... just bad. In the morning, I can get up no problem, and do whatever I like, but in the afternoon... jeez.

I planned to go have a run today but I slept and woke up too late to do it and since it takes me some time to recover from the crappy state afternoon naps put me in, that's blown. :/

To each their own i guess. To me Sleeping in the afternoon is like fishing in a lake with no fish.
 
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