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Resident Evil (2002) / HD Remaster (2015) Whose scenario is canon - Chris or Jill's?

Which scenario is canon?

  • Chris

    Votes: 5 17.2%

  • Jill

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Both

    Votes: 24 82.8%
  • Total voters
    29
Deathstroke said:
Flawed from your point of view. Please stop putting me down and telling me that what I think is false and that your opinion and views are the only correct ones. I don´t like it when people I don´t even know call me flawed. Frankly I am getting really tired of this. Please just don´t say anything right now just for the sake of making another remark and just leave me alone. Your last comment was just petty and only meant to put me down and insult me and make me feel bad. It contributed nothing to the issue or the subject to this thread and was completely unnecessary. Dont´t reply to me just to be an ass. Thats just disrespectful.
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Your logic is flawed by definition. Look:

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/56/Argument_from_Ignorance

That's what you did. You said I couldn't disprove the multiverse, therefore it could exist. You were appealing to ignorance, (which goes well with your also ignorant "exactly" comment above). This has nothing to do with opinions, you claiming otherwise is another fallacy entirely.

Not trying to put you down here, but you tried to make me the bad guy just because you took offence to a debate that opposed what you think is true. And yes, we're straying off topic but I wanted that to be said.
 
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La Femme Fatale said:
Hi all,

So I decided to purchase the Remaster since I haven't touched this game since university, and I hadn't noticed it before but the ending struck me as odd. I presume that Wesker captures and imprisons whichever character you didn't choose to play with at the beginning of the game and thus you never run into the other main character. The best ending with Jill is with Chris and Barry being alive, and the best ending with Chris is Jill and Rebecca being alive. But Chris never meets (up with) Barry nor Rebecca with Jill - at all. It seems strange that Capcom wouldn't try to amalgamate these two scenarios so that Chris and Jill scan save both Rebecca and Barry.

We do see Barry again in the series (aside from just mercenaries), but not Rebecca, although I believe there was a file that said she was alive in a latter game. So is the canon scenario then some weird mix of both Chris and Jill's experiences? I apologize in advance if this is a dumb question...
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I think Chris's scenario is canon because in Resident Evil 6 he encounters a massive snake that resembles the one who is that bit him in the a Mansion and he comments on the last time he saw one whereas in Jill's scenario she got bitten by the snake instead while Chris was captured.
 
MisterScott said:
I think Chris's scenario is canon because in Resident Evil 6 he encounters a massive snake that resembles the one who is that bit him in the a Mansion and he comments on the last time he saw one whereas in Jill's scenario she got bitten by the snake instead while Chris was captured.
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Parts of both are canon.
 
Maddy7 said:
Parts of both are canon.
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Sometimes I think that the first game should be remade again because (apart from all sorts of cool reasons like experiencing the first game with even more realistic graphics and adding new features)it can have a better ending which clears up these inconsistencies.
 
Neither of them could be considered canonical because it begs so many questions:-

Q#1 Who got kidnapped and did nothing until the very end?
Q#2 How did Rebecca or Barry survive?
Q#3 Who started the self destruct sequence? Was it Wesker or Rebecca?

Like, what "really" happened in RE1 is unkown as we know that both Rebecca&Barry survived and Chris had developed a rivalry thing with wesker in CV and Barry saves Jill in RE3's canon ending. It doesn't make sense for either of them to be kidnapped for the entirety of RE1.
 
They're both canon. It doesn't make much sense, but whatever development each character went through is what counts. It's poor storytelling but that was obviously something they sought to fix with RE2.
 
Unknown said:
Your logic is flawed by definition. Look:

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/56/Argument_from_Ignorance

That's what you did. You said I couldn't disprove the multiverse, therefore it could exist. You were appealing to ignorance, (which goes well with your also ignorant "exactly" comment above). This has nothing to do with opinions, you claiming otherwise is another fallacy entirely.

Not trying to put you down here, but you tried to make me the bad guy just because you took offence to a debate that opposed what you think is true. And yes, we're straying off topic but I wanted that to be said.
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I don't know what your problem is, pal. But it's a multiverse.
 
Technically speaking, none of the endings are canon since there isn't a single one that shows both Jill, Chris, Rebecca and Barry getting out alive. That's actually one more reason why we need a RE1 remake remake.
 
Deathstroke said:
However that does not work anymore once you reach the lab as the Tyrant only escapes once and Wesker cannot die twice in different ways by the Tyrants hand. Also either Chris or Jill are always in that prison cell, they are never both free at the same time.
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i believe canonically chris rebecca barry and jill where in the lab with wesker at the same time
 
ethan said:
i believe canonically chris rebecca barry and jill where in the lab with wesker at the same time
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canonically neither chris or jill was in a jail at least not the entire time if one of them was in jail they were only put in the cell by wesker close to the end of the events of re1
 
MisterScott said:
I think Chris's scenario is canon because in Resident Evil 6 he encounters a massive snake that resembles the one who is that bit him in the a Mansion and he comments on the last time he saw one whereas in Jill's scenario she got bitten by the snake instead while Chris was captured.
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according to re archives book jill fought yawn in the attic and chris fought yawn in the library
 
The canon story is not presented in the game due to game mechanics overriding a cohesive story, but between the two, Chris’s arc is “more” canon due to the ongoing story with Wesker later in the series. Jill’s is slightly less relevant due to Barry only ever appearing twice more and his forced betrayal not really being brought up, so Jill’s side of things don’t hold the same long-term relevance. Picking between the two out of convenience, the best answer is Chris.
 
Nobody on the development team expected this to take off into a major franchise. Add in budget and time constraints and what you have here is the understandable forced merging of the two scenarios into canon.

This was actually my first instinct right before I snagged RE2 OG -"Wouldn't it make sense if both were part of the story now?" (I did not yet discover the word 'canon' when I was a pre-teen)-, and was glad that Capcom chose the path canonizing both Jill and Chris.

Unlike today, Capcom of old seemed to align with my instincts and preferences but that is a bye gone era now.
 
It’s annoying how they did the same thing with RE2, although they at least settled on one, albeit the wrong one. Leon A/Claire B makes the most sense of the two for numerous reasons, but because they wanted to bring Sherry back and have her G infection be part of her character - even though they screwed around and didn’t bring her back for 14 years and only had her G infection be relevant for about 30 seconds, and only to her personally, not the story - they went with Claire A/Leon B, which is the worse scenario and benefits the rest of the series less.
 
Ikawaru said:
Nobody on the development team expected this to take off into a major franchise. Add in budget and time constraints and what you have here is the understandable forced merging of the two scenarios into canon.
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They didn’t have this excuse for the remake though, or the remake of 2, which is even more egregious a failure with regards to canon/continuity. At least RE1 doesn’t even try to pretend its scenarios are both occurring simultaneously like remake 2 does (failing spectacularly at doing so).

Teen Tyrant said:
The canon story is not presented in the game due to game mechanics overriding a cohesive story, but between the two, Chris’s arc is “more” canon due to the ongoing story with Wesker later in the series. Jill’s is slightly less relevant due to Barry only ever appearing twice more and his forced betrayal not really being brought up, so Jill’s side of things don’t hold the same long-term relevance. Picking between the two out of convenience, the best answer is Chris.
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Chris was originally the sole main character of RE1, and playing both campaigns it’s blatantly clear how the game flow is designed around his gameplay differences. It’s like how the lockpick just replaces one of the themed mansion emblem keys entirely in Jill’s campaign. And it takes no inventory slot, nor does it go into the personal item slot because RE1 didn’t have that. Chris obviously just has no personal item, because it was never meant to be a thing.

Barry is not playable, as per series tradition of support characters having a playable section or two, due to Jill’s being designed later and them not coming up with a way to make this work.

It seems like her game was included when someone at Capcom noticed that the game was going to be too hard with just Chris (Mikami didn’t even want item boxes to connect).
 
Unknown said:
They didn’t have this excuse for the remake though, or the remake of 2, which is even more egregious a failure with regards to canon/continuity. At least RE1 doesn’t even try to pretend its scenarios are both occurring simultaneously like remake 2 does (failing spectacularly at doing so).
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What's actually funny about this is that they didn't expect RE2R to do that well either (explaining the lack of effort in that regard). It is the best selling RE game to date! Ha!
 
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Unknown said:
Chris was originally the sole main character of RE1, and playing both campaigns it’s blatantly clear how the game flow is designed around his gameplay differences. It’s like how the lockpick just replaces one of the themed mansion emblem keys entirely in Jill’s campaign. And it takes no inventory slot, nor does it go into the personal item slot because RE1 didn’t have that. Chris obviously just has no personal item, because it was never meant to be a thing.
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I think it's irrelevant what the game "originally" looked like during development, it has nothing to do with how the story is presented in the final game. A lot of games and movies go through multiple concepts and ideas before settling for something definitive, some even have entire plot structures changed or replaced. Just look at Elza Walker from the early prototypes of RE2 - Although she was obviously conceptualized before Claire it means zero s**t in the final product.
 
Definitely Chris, even I know this. Jills is loaded with tons of cheesy lines.. the most I ever seen in a video game. The word "Sandwich" couldn't make it more obvious.
 
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