Resident Evil 3 Remake Jill's face model vs Carlos's hair vs Nemesis nose/teeth..which "flaw" is tolerable/nontolerable to you

[Deleted member 21244]

So I just watched the video that shows the 3 members in action and some gameplay.

I'm not a fan of Nikolai or Jill's voice but I actually really like Carlos' voice. Seeing his design in action still doesn't sit with me. But I think his voice acting is alright. Better than I expected given how much I disliked RE2R's voice work.

Nikolai looks...way more skinny than I'm comfortable with. And his voice work actually sucks pretty bad though.
This time felt the style of ORC would work best. That voice sounded like what I'd imagine someone like Nikolai would sound like. So that's unfortunate.
I'll give him one thing. He by far is the most disturbing character because he has one absolute hell of a rape face going on. Jesus. Whoever animated that gets props. Because that was actually scary.

But so far the designs and voice cast are just major turn offs and aren't looking too great personally.

Also imagine being ready to talk mad smack and you don't get to finish the voiceline because Nemmy just socked you.

I actually like nicholai new design, but you are right about his voice, it's a bit exaggerated maybe, but no much of a problem for me

Also here is his face model, i think it's a good choice personally, he isn't that skinny actually

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[JujuLodestar]

I actually like nicholai new design, but you are right about his voice, it's a bit exaggerated maybe, but no much of a problem for me

Also here is his face model, i think it's a good choice personally, he isn't that skinny actually

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Christ. This dude is decked out.
I think his face is pretty solid over all. Just a weird disconnect given his prior iterations.

 

[xMobilemux]

I feel like saying:
"The new Carlos design is hot."
It's just a tiny bit different than saying:
"Her ass looks great in those jeans and I'm glad her breasts still jiggle."
Yeah that's crude. If you said that to an actual woman on the street she'd be offended. I haven't seen any women saying:
"Yeah look at what's going on in Carlos' pants."

I've literally been to the Thor and Avengers movies with girls who gush over Chris Helmsworth's abs and biceps and I didn't mind at all, yet yeah if I gushed over Margot Robbie's butt in Suicide Squad around them, I'd be insulted and shamed.

Just because fictional media is "escapism" that doesn't mean she's your new girlfriend. And yes, realistic female representation in media is important. So many women have issues with body image and eating disorders due to fictional character portrayal, Photoshop and women in magazines.

Who the hell says she's my girlfriend? What's all that about?
Also I'll say it again, GO MAKE YOUR OWN IPS! Leave ours alone.
It's exactly this kind of hostile take over nonsense to make women feel better about themselves that resulted in the destruction of the biggest IP in entertainment history, Star Wars.

But I refuse to argue with someone who probably has the privilege of not being scrutinized down to the finest details due to their gender and whose opinion I find downright offensive.

Then don't start the argument in the first place, just ignore me and move on.

And I'm sorry but the fact that e-thots are being replaced by fictional cam girls says more about how desperate and ignorant men who buy into that are than anything.
Should we start a Go Fund Me to get you laid?

There it is, the insulting and shaming I mentioned above. You're all the same, you mock, shame and insult.
You go on about being picked on and how things should change to represent you and make you feel better about yourself, yet you have no problem picking on people who like certain kinds of things and pretty much just say "go get laid incel!".

 

[KennedyKiller]

I'm with @xMobilemux in a sense here, though I think the discussion isn't being addressed properly. This issue here is censorship of art due to outcry of small, but vocal minorities. For example, Persona 5: The Royal, has recently been announced to have a scene altered, or should I say "Censored" for "Homophobia." In the context of the game, two VERY obviously gay characters start hitting on one of the main characters, who is visibly uncomfortable by the flirty dudes. The scene is played as a joke in the original game. It's now being cut from the remake, causing fans to lash out. And I have to agree with them. Having a joke like this isn't "Homophobia." It's a one off gag in an over 120 hour game, that doesn't make mention of homosexuality again. However, because a small but vocal minority of keyboard warriors, who aren't the target demographic of the game in the first place, shouted down Atlus, Atlus made the change. The idea that a company should be forced by a small minority to change their art is what is the problem here. It's the difference between making the change yourself, because you truly believe the change is warranted, or bending the knee to appease other people, especially people who weren't your target demographic in the first place. And while this example is about homophobia and not sexualization, the principle is the same. If Capcom genuinely changed Jill's design because they just wanted to. Because they thought it looked better. Because this version has more practicality and therefore more of a realism factor, that's totally fine. If they changed it for fear of the outrage mob, THEN the change is a problem, because it's effectively forced censorship of art. And you can also make the case that nowadays companies are making less and less sexualized stuff in video games, not because they think it's the right thing to do, but out of fear of being shouted down on Twitter, so they're preemptively making their products more censored than they would like to.

For me, it's all about what's natural to the game and story, as well as not bending the knee to the twitter mob. When Blizzard bent the knee to China, and took an ANTI Hong Kong Liberation stance, because China gives Blizzard quite a bit of $$$, I was disgusted. They're putting their money over their art and morals. This is the same. When Ellie kissed a girl in the Last of Us 2 trailer, I didn't give a f*ck or feel like an agenda was being pushed, because it felt natural. That is the difference, and I think that's how it needs to be looked at. Is the change being done because of forced censorship, or is it being done because it makes sense in the context of the art?

 

[xMobilemux]

I'm with @xMobilemux in a sense here, though I think the discussion isn't being addressed properly. This issue here is censorship of art due to outcry of small, but vocal minorities. For example, Persona 5: The Royal, has recently been announced to have a scene altered, or should I say "Censored" for "Homophobia." In the context of the game, two VERY obviously gay characters start hitting on one of the main characters, who is visibly uncomfortable by the flirty dudes. The scene is played as a joke in the original game. It's now being cut from the remake, causing fans to lash out. And I have to agree with them. Having a joke like this isn't "Homophobia." It's a one off gag in an over 120 hour game, that doesn't make mention of homosexuality again. However, because a small but vocal minority of keyboard warriors, who aren't the target demographic of the game in the first place, shouted down Atlus, Atlus made the change. The idea that a company should be forced by a small minority to change their art is what is the problem here. It's the difference between making the change yourself, because you truly believe the change is warranted, or bending the knee to appease other people, especially people who weren't your target demographic in the first place. And while this example is about homophobia and not sexualization, the principle is the same. If Capcom genuinely changed Jill's design because they just wanted to. Because they thought it looked better. Because this version has more practicality and therefore more of a realism factor, that's totally fine. If they changed it for fear of the outrage mob, THEN the change is a problem, because it's effectively forced censorship of art. And you can also make the case that nowadays companies are making less and less sexualized stuff in video games, not because they think it's the right thing to do, but out of fear of being shouted down on Twitter, so they're preemptively making their products more censored than they would like to.

It's an unfortunate state of the industry really because so many gamers, including myself, are on high alert for this kind of stuff and will immediately back out after hearing even the slightest hint of censorship.
I was never interested in the Final Fantasy series, but when I heard all the buzz about the FF7 Remake, I was intrigued, but the moment I heard Tifa was toned down due to an "internal ethics department", I was out, I have absolutely ZERO interest in the game now.

Capcom seems to be trying the "please everyone" path in regards to Jill's design and by that I mean, they are showing off her more modern and practical design for marketing so that the Twitter mob doesn't go nuclear, but they are still including the classic outfit for fans, sneaking it's confirmation at the end of the trailers.

For a while I was under the impression that Resident Evil had lost that video game charm with this new realistic direction, I was convinced that Jill was just using the same body type as Claire, her breasts would be solid as rocks and even the classic outfit would be censored to some degree, but seeing that Capcom is still including things like bigger bust size for Jill, jiggle physics and what not shows that they still have it and aren't self censoring their games, it's very reassuring to know that.
I was even more reassured when I recently learned that even Ada in REmake 2 had jiggle physics, showing that they still had it back in REmake 2.

When Ellie kissed a girl in the Last of Us 2 trailer, I didn't give a f*ck or feel like an agenda was being pushed, because it felt natural. That is the difference, and I think that's how it needs to be looked at. Is the change being done because of forced censorship, or is it being done because it make sense in the context of the art?

I disagree on the Last of Us 2 thing being natural, it's 100% an agenda, the game's director Druckman has gone out of his way to show it off, he's also a real prick of human being btw.
But I won't derail into that, if you wanna look more into it, this video covers it well.

 

[KennedyKiller]

It's an unfortunate state of the industry really because so many gamers, including myself, are on high alert for this kind of stuff and will immediately back out after hearing even the slightest hint of censorship.
I was never interested in the Final Fantasy series, but when I heard all the buzz about the FF7 Remake, I was intrigued, but the moment I heard Tifa was toned down due to an "internal ethics department", I was out, I have absolutely ZERO interest in the game now.

Capcom seems to be trying the "please everyone" path in regards to Jill's design and by that I mean, they are showing off her more modern and practical design for marketing so that the Twitter mob doesn't go nuclear, but they are still including the classic outfit for fans, sneaking it's confirmation at the end of the trailers.

For a while I was under the impression that Resident Evil had lost that video game charm with this new realistic direction, I was convinced that Jill was just using the same body type as Claire, her breasts would be solid as rocks and even the classic outfit would be censored to some degree, but seeing that Capcom is still including things like bigger bust size for Jill, jiggle physics and what not shows that they still have it and aren't self censoring their games, it's very reassuring to know that.
I was even more reassured when I recently learned that even Ada in REmake 2 had jiggle physics, showing that they still had it back in REmake 2.


I disagree on the Last of Us 2 thing being natural, it's 100% an agenda, the game's director Druckman has gone out of his way to show it off, he's also a real prick of human being btw.
But I won't derail into that, if you wanna look more into it, this video covers it well.

I haven't seen the video since E3, and all the E3 commentators were like, "Yeah, cool," then moved on. It's possible it is an agenda. But the initial presentation (Which is all I'm aware of since I haven't even played the first Last of Us, so I have no interest in the sequel) didn't feel off putting or forced in any way shape or form.

As for censorship in gaming, modern day companies seem to look to Twitter to get people's opinions and ideas. Only about 22% percent of Americans use Twitter. Not even CLOSE to a population Majority. Of that 22%, the morals, philosophies, and ideologies of the majority of Twitter users are not representative of majority of the consumers. So effectively, if they're using Twitter as their guiding light, they're going to get HORRIBLY skewed data that doesn't actually paint a picture of what their fans, and more importantly from a business standpoint, their CUSTOMERS, want out of their product. That's why you see movie failures like Birds of Prey and Charlie's Angels. They're catering to a very loud base...but that turns out is actually a very small population. The majority, the people that don't use Twitter therefore aren't having their opinions looked at by these companies, don't actually want this level of ideology, censorship, and forced agenda in their media. That said, if the artists wants to put those messages in because they TRULY believe them, I'm all for it. Whether I like the art or not is not a factor in whether I think it should be successful, a failure, censored, or otherwise. But at the end of the day...my personal preference? Keep your damn politics, whichever way they swing, out of my games. Games are for escapism from the real world. And I don't wanna be gunning down zombies, but then think back to all the news articles about how Capcom bent at the knee for the Cancel Culture Puritans and how they forced Capcom to change the game, and start thinking about what could have been. (Not saying that's what happened here. Just an example).

 

[Deleted member 21244]

It's an unfortunate state of the industry really because so many gamers, including myself, are on high alert for this kind of stuff and will immediately back out after hearing even the slightest hint of censorship.
I was never interested in the Final Fantasy series, but when I heard all the buzz about the FF7 Remake, I was intrigued, but the moment I heard Tifa was toned down due to an "internal ethics department", I was out, I have absolutely ZERO interest in the game now.

Capcom seems to be trying the "please everyone" path in regards to Jill's design and by that I mean, they are showing off her more modern and practical design for marketing so that the Twitter mob doesn't go nuclear, but they are still including the classic outfit for fans, sneaking it's confirmation at the end of the trailers.

For a while I was under the impression that Resident Evil had lost that video game charm with this new realistic direction, I was convinced that Jill was just using the same body type as Claire, her breasts would be solid as rocks and even the classic outfit would be censored to some degree, but seeing that Capcom is still including things like bigger bust size for Jill, jiggle physics and what not shows that they still have it and aren't self censoring their games, it's very reassuring to know that.
I was even more reassured when I recently learned that even Ada in REmake 2 had jiggle physics, showing that they still had it back in REmake 2.


I disagree on the Last of Us 2 thing being natural, it's 100% an agenda, the game's director Druckman has gone out of his way to show it off, he's also a real prick of human being btw.
But I won't derail into that, if you wanna look more into it, this video covers it well.

Having zero interested in ff 7 remake, one of the most awaited game of the years just because tifa boobs were Toned down is a bit exachagereted i think
You can loose one of the best game ever becasue of a change that really doesn't bother whit the rest of the game, you shouldn't habe played the whole resident evil 5 game because it was totally changed because of those race criticism

I don't like this censorship things either but as far as they upset me i can still ebjoy the game, for example when the first two god of war game re released on ps3 i was angry by the fact that some nude cutcene as been chensorship, there was a cgi scene in wich some girls were naked on Kratos bad, but they censored that by putting blankets on them
That is so stupid because the scene have just some ass and tits showing fo two second

This things also happened whit devil may cry 5, there some scene in which lady and trish were "naked" and it was censored in many country before a patch take out the censorship but the censorship is still present in my country, this is so stupid they just show they're lower back for like 1 seconds what was the purpose of censoring them?

As for the last of us 2, i don't know if it was an agenda but for me that scene felt natural, since we already know that ellie is lesbian in thr last of us 1
Also when is saw boobs, penis, naked people, ass, lesbian and gay in video game i don't really care it all felt natural to me, i never see something wrong about this, the wrong things are censorship like that because they are stupid and uselles, but nonetheless i don't let them destroy my game experience, and neither should you, ff 7 looks like one of the best gane ever and tifs boons Change is just a minimal change thst dosent destroy the experience

Edit: a final fantasy 7 demo is live on ps4 and it's amazingly awesome, tifa boobs dosent ruin the experience XD

 

[Hel]

Does it fall under censorship that Sherry can't die in her playable section of REmake 2, even though she could in the original? Granted, she had an insane amount of health back then, zombies would only use their spit attack on her and the dogs didn't maul her like the adults, but you could get her killed. In the remake, her only enemy is Irons who merely locks her up if he catches her, and that seems a little silly because Sherry being trapped alive in a room wouldn't stop Claire from coming and reuniting with her, and Birkin could still show up to do his thing with her and Irons, making sure the story can continue as usual.

As for Jill's breasts... I don't remember them being noticeably bigger than the other women's in the past, didn't really pay attention to them in the remake either, but to be honest, I don't actually care. What bothers me is that her new outfit is rather bland, when I've always regarded Jill as the best-dressed RE character, but surely there will be extra costumes for her, so it's okay. Nicholai was easy to identify by his platinum blonde hair and attitude towards Jill, but I'll have to get used to his long face, especially after how very round it was in ORC. Then again, that game didn't have the greatest character models in the first place, and most of the male characters ended up looking like chubby toddlers, especially Leon and Carlos.

 

[xMobilemux]

@Albertwesker959 Because I don't give a damn about Final Fantasy, never did. All the buzz around the FF7 remake got me intrigued, but once I heard that it was being toned down because of an internal ethics department, that was all I needed to hear that it was being censored due to the SJW types and I don't want anything to do with it.
I don't believe I'll be missing out on much because I never cared about the game in the first place and I was never into JRPGs.

DMC5 censorship wasn't due to the devs themselves, but was due to Sony's BS censorship policies, so it's unfair to blame Capcom for that.

For Last of Us 2, you only need to look at that video I linked, it explains everything.

 

[Deleted member 21244]

@Albertwesker959 Because I don't give a damn about Final Fantasy, never did. All the buzz around the FF7 remake got me intrigued, but once I heard that it was being toned down because of an internal ethics department, that was all I needed to hear that it was being censored due to the SJW types and I don't want anything to do with it.
I don't believe I'll be missing out on much because I never cared about the game in the first place and I was never into JRPGs.

DMC5 censorship wasn't due to the devs themselves, but was due to Sony's BS censorship policies, so it's unfair to blame Capcom for that.

For Last of Us 2, you only need to look at that video I linked, it explains everything.

They only toned down Tifa boobs, they didnt change anything else, tifa boobs were exaggerated at the time, they are more "real" now and still big

You re reaction is exaggerated in my opinion not wanting to play a game just for a pair of boobs changing XD

I'll try to take a look at the video later, but as i say before i don't really care about what other say, they are just they're opinion
I don't overreact about this sort of things, as long as the last of us will be a good game i don't care about nude scene, gay scene, boons ecc

Edit: i looked the video and i quited after 5 minutes, i actually really don't care about all the stuff he was saying , i don't care if naughty dog have an agenda or not, the game tourn out to be one of the greatest game I've ever played, so i don't really care about all this sort of things at all, did knowing that sort of things didn't changed the game quality

It's really uselles to stand there and watch every videogame female character to see if she is sexualized or else and than complaining, just enjoy the damn game

 

[xMobilemux]

They only toned down Tifa boobs, they didnt change anything else, tifa boobs were exaggerated at the time, they are more "real" now and still big

You re reaction is exaggerated in my opinion not wanting to play a game just for a pair of boobs changing XD

I'll try to take a look at the video later, but as i say before i don't really care about what other say, they are just they're opinion
I don't overreact about this sort of things, as long as the last of us will be a good game i don't care about nude scene, gay scene, boons ecc

Edit: i looked the video and i quited after 5 minutes, i actually really don't care about all the stuff he was saying , i don't care if naughty dog have an agenda or not, the game tourn out to be one of the greatest game I've ever played, so i don't really care about all this sort of things at all, did knowing that sort of things didn't changed the game quality

It's really uselles to stand there and watch every videogame female character to see if she is sexualized or else and than complaining, just enjoy the damn game

I'm not playing it because I never cared about Final Fantasy, never did, I never even played the other games where Tifa had her huge boobs, because they're not my type of games, huge boobs or not and neither is FF7 because I don't like JRPGs.
But any hope of me giving this game a chance died when they confirmed they were toning down the character due to ethics, it's not about her boobs, it's because they are pandering to the Twitter nut jobs.

 

[Deleted member 21244]

I'm not playing it because I never cared about Final Fantasy, never did, I never even played the other games where Tifa had her huge boobs, because they're not my type of games, huge boobs or not and neither is FF7 because I don't like JRPGs.
But any hope of me giving this game a chance died when they confirmed they were toning down the character due to ethics, it's not about her boobs, it's because they are pandering to the Twitter nut jobs.

There is a demo on the psn if you want to try it, the game is really good and the gameplay is great, maybe you can give it a chance, who knows maybe you will like it

 

[xMobilemux]

There is a demo on the psn if you want to try it, the game is really good and the gameplay is great, maybe you can give it a chance, who knows maybe you will like it

I DON'T want to try it and I won't give it a chance.
Square Enix censoring the game is the same as if hypothetically Dead Space 4 was announced and EA confirmed it would be full of microtransactions, I don't care how good the game may be, I AM OUT!!!! I will not support that kind of behavior.
KennedyKiller said it best, I can't enjoy the game if while I'm playing I'm thinking back at how the devs cowered in fear and changed the game instead of sticking to their vision.

 

[Deleted member 21244]

I DON'T want to try it and I won't give it a chance.
Square Enix censoring the game is the same as if hypothetically Dead Space 4 was announced and EA confirmed it would be full of microtransactions, I don't care how good the game may be, I AM OUT!!!! I will not support that kind of behavior.
KennedyKiller said it best, I can't enjoy the game if while I'm playing I'm thinking back at how the devs cowered in fear and changed the game instead of sticking to their vision.

This is so stupid and mind closed, don't playing a game just because of a boobs changing, that rdosent change the creator vision of the game
Tifa boons were not the main focus of final fantasy 7 but it happear you think thry were XD
What does micro transaction have to do whit a boobs changing? I don't see the connection

Returning to thread i find this pretty good video that show some resident evil 3 scene comparision whit the original

Despite all the changes the game is still pretty faithful

 

[xMobilemux]

This is so stupid and mind closed, don't playing a game just because of a boobs changing, that rdosent change the creator vision of the game
Tifa boons were not the main focus of final fantasy 7 but it happear you think thry were XD
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You really don't listen do you? I said multiple times, I DON'T CARE ABOUT FINAL FANTASY and I didn't care when she had huge boobs in past games, they aren't my type of games, I wasn't even interested in FF7 before this whole thing happened, I only took notice of it because all the hype caught my attention, but then I heard of the censorship and wasn't interested anymore, it's not far fetched.
The Ethics department intervened and forced them to censor, it did affect their vision, it's censorship, plain and simple and I won't support it, because that will just cause even more censorship in the future.
I'm not missing out on anything because I was never interested in the game in the first place, the censorship just made me even less interested.

No offense, but you really just sound annoyed that I won't play a game that you're hyped about.

What does micro transaction have to do whit a boobs changing? I don't see the connection

*sigh*
You know what forget it, this is going nowhere and you clearly don't get it.

Back to Resident Evil.

 

[Deleted member 21244]

You really don't listen do you? I said multiple times, I DON'T CARE ABOUT FINAL FANTASY and I didn't care when she had huge boobs in past games, they aren't my type of games, I wasn't even interested in FF7 before this whole thing happened, I only took notice of it because all the hype caught my attention, but then I heard of the censorship and wasn't interested anymore, it's not far fetched.
The Ethics department intervened and forced them to censor, it did affect their vision, it's censorship, plain and simple and I won't support it, because that will just cause even more censorship in the future.
I'm not missing out on anything because I was never interested in the game in the first place, the censorship just made me even less interested.

No offense, but you really just sound annoyed that I won't play a game that you're hyped about.

No i just think it's stupid to things that a pair of boobs changing did effect the creators vision and going as far as to not even trying the game , they are just more real and natural now and they are pretty big even now, they were simply exaggerated in that cgi cutscene from ff 7
Also all this dound like that annoying people who say that they wil never play re 3 remake because jill is not wearing is original costume and nemesis is badly designed, uff my god they should just enjoy the ****ing game

Also i didn't understand the connection between micro transaction and making tifa boobs more "real"

Also they were already toned down in advent children

And in rhe original final fantasy 7 gameplay they weren't that big either only in one cgi video they were exaggerated

So i don't really see all this stuff going around tifa boobs changing
Also i understand that you didn't care about final fnatady but you still sound like that tifa boobs changing is the greatest problem off ff 7 remake and game industry as a whole while it's a stupid change that dosent change a **** actually

 

[xMobilemux]

It's because it's an admission of censorship, they admitted it outright, they toned her down intentionally.

The ethics department at Square Enix also said we had to tighten her chest so it doesn’t look unnatural during all the intense fighting. Because of that we added black thigh highs and tank top.”
- Director Tetsuya Nomura

They forced them to change her.
When I heard that I just wasn't interested anymore, it's not about smaller or bigger boobs, it's because they were forced to censor the game.

The microtransactions thing was a same basic principle, if a hypothetical Dead Space 4 or any other game was announced and it was confirmed that it would be full of microtransactions, I would be equally turned off and wouldn't want to play the game anymore, regardless of how good the game may be.

For what it's worth, I hope you are right and the game actually isn't toned down at all, but that Ethics department restricting the character designs is a huge turn off for me. Regardless I'm still not interested in the game.

 

[UniqTeas]

I am glad that Square Enix has an entire ethics department to ensure that better quality games are made. Now I want to play FF7 Remake EVEN MORE! To know that they not only created their game, but then audited the experience to give everyone a better overall product - that is classy.

I am sure that every video game company goes through something like this. I bet that a LOT of internal discussions about how far is too far with graphics for women's bodies in nearly every company. Midway probably has dozens of discussions about costumes before they decide what is too far and what is not. For Square Enix to deliver a more realistic experience because of forward thinking like this, that can only be a good thing.

 

[Deleted member 21244]

I am glad that Square Enix has an entire ethics department to ensure that better quality games are made. Now I want to play FF7 Remake EVEN MORE! To know that they not only created their game, but then audited the experience to give everyone a better overall product - that is classy.

I am sure that every video game company goes through something like this. I bet that a LOT of internal discussions about how far is too far with graphics for women's bodies in nearly every company. Midway probably has dozens of discussions about costumes before they decide what is too far and what is not. For Square Enix to deliver a more realistic experience because of forward thinking like this, that can only be a good thing.

If Capcom had some of this department back than jill would not have been sexualized in the previous re game like in re 3 and re 5
You know that in resident evil 5 jill chest devices should have been into her hesd instead of her chest? But some at capcom thinked that putting the device on her chest was god opportunity to open jill jacket and give a look at her boobs, this is literally written in the resident evil 5 artbook, sometimes too far is too far...

Also jill is wearing that costume in the original resident evil 3 because they wanted to emphasize Her boobs and her legs, but it's simply stupid and dosent make sense for the story overall, it amaze that some people say that the new re 3 costume is **** compared to the original costume and dimished jill as a character while it reality is the original costume that diminished her

 

[Springhosen]

@Albertwesker959 I have to agree with you. If we're going to talk about something diminishing Jill's character it's not getting directions from Carlos, it was that mini skirt and tube top.

She knew what was going on in the city before she left her apartment and she still decided to step out like she was going to the club? Not believable and insanely stupid for someone who has all the training the does.