Really ORC? Its a freat game don't get me wrong, but I didn't think it was GOTY material.
I hate to say this because I'm starting to sound like a broken record because of how many times I've repeated it, but I'll say it again. It's his (Flipqy42's) opinion. If he says that it is one of his favorite games of this year, you don't second guess it (You don't ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever second guess someone's opinion.), instead you let it be. If I say that I hate the best game that was ever made (Which by the way there will never be one), you don't try and say "Bull****, you gotta love the game because everyone else likes it and it's the best game ever made". If I love the worst game of all time (Which again, there will never be one) then you don't say "You gotta be freaking kidding, that game sucks and you're a disgrace to humanity for liking it." (Of course you never did say those because those are just examples). You don't try and make someone change their opinion. If you can't agree with someone else's opinion, that's your problem.
In a way, you're right. It's impossible for one game to be objectively better than another because it is subjective how good a game is. However, popularity can be used to determine quality. Large numbers of people will praise one particular game over another, and that is as close to objectively establishing quality as we will ever get. Therefore, I submit to you that Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is the best game ever made. I also submit that the best band is The Beatles. You can disagree with me, but I have the vast majority on my side in both cases.
Now hold on. I think you're confusing "favorite" with "best." My favorite game is Halo: Combat Evolved, but I wouldn't ever try to argue that it's better than Zelda: OoT. You can waltz around all willy-nilly saying your favorite game is whatever you damn please. When you say something is the best ever, you're trying to go beyond your personal quips and declare the one that is superior to all others no matter who is concerned.
This argument is 100% flawed.Partly because it's 1:42 am and I'm tired but also because I have nothing better to do than listen to old Blink 182 albums while my computer finishes scanning, I'm going to entertain this with a reply.
If no one ever responded to another person's opinion, there would be no such thing as a discussion.
In a way, you're right. It's impossible for one game to be objectively better than another because it is subjective how good a game is. However, popularity can be used to determine quality. Large numbers of people will praise one particular game over another, and that is as close to objectively establishing quality as we will ever get. Therefore, I submit to you that Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is the best game ever made. I also submit that the best band is The Beatles. You can disagree with me, but I have the vast majority on my side in both cases.
Now hold on. I think you're confusing "favorite" with "best." My favorite game is Halo: Combat Evolved, but I wouldn't ever try to argue that it's better than Zelda: OoT. You can waltz around all willy-nilly saying your favorite game is whatever you damn please. When you say something is the best ever, you're trying to go beyond your personal quips and declare the one that is superior to all others no matter who is concerned.
Why do I say Zelda is #1? Let's take a step back and look at the N64. The first generation of 3D rendered gaming. Not MarioKart64 which was just 2-dimensional objects arranged in a 3-dimensional environment. Zelda was the first game to give you a vast 3D world to explore on a scale that had never been fathomed by anyone before. It did so many things right that every 3D game that followed has elements that can be traced back to it. A lock-on system, intuitive use of jumping, how to make a camera that wasn't disorienting, all of these things have been echoed in games all the way up to the Xbox 360. Now, maybe you disagree with my decision in placing Zelda in the #1 slot, but you can't deny my REASONING. My reasoning has nothing to do with my own personal experience with the game (awesome as it was).
With all due respect...
I waited 2 years for this game and it was the single most important reason for me to buy a 3DS. I don't think there will ever be a bad Kingdom hearts game.
AgentZero hardly warranted the response you provided here. He wasn't being particularly unkind nor was he even challenging Flipqy for his opinion; he merely gave his own opinion in turn and it was perfectly reasonable. I'm afraid you've been a bit over-the-top and confrontational for little reason with your responses to several individuals in this thread, friend.
