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Turo602

The King of Kings
Actually, you're right. Sherry was retired. And Capcom brought her out of Retirement as a way to ease fans into the idea of Jake. What is more poetic then the children of the two most evil people in RE history (Wesker and Birkin) fighting alongside each other for the heroes...So yes, she was retired, and the brought her out of it.

I'm done rewording so I'm just gonna keep quoting until you get some sense.

Retired - withdraw to or from a particular place.

Withdraw - remove or take away (something) from a particular place or position.

Not being used doesn't equal being removed....

And I'm the delusional one? He says he should have never been created, then walks away. How is that NOT a child friendly way (Because it IS a Sonic game) for older plays to realize he's going to kill himself.

I guess every single person who's uttered the phrase "I wish I was never born" has committed suicide.

And how did he NOT Dismiss her. He most DEFINITELY did. You're JUST as delusional as I am, you're just on the total OPPOSITE end of the spectrum.

She was never a fighter. She wasn't a fighter in RE2, she wasn't a fighter in Code Veronica, and she wasn't a fighter in Degeneration.

Leon stating the obvious isn't a character's send off. You're by yourself here. It's no one else's fault but your own that you think Degeneration was the end for Claire.

At least you're admiting to being delusional. I guess we're agreeing on something.

And how has Leon never been a relevant character? He fights JUST as hard as Chris does against bio-terrorism, and has ever since the first game. Well...Second game. First game he was in. Yeah, it starts off as a mistake. But at the end of it, he WANTS to continue fighting. Did you learn NOTHING from Darkside Chronicles, Degeneration, and Damnation? Those were ALL focused on his fight against Bio-Terrorism. Hell, the only game where he ISN'T fighting Bio-Terrorism intentionally is RE4. I guess RE6 is debatable in that respect.

Wesker was the driving force for the story. Leon had nothing to do with any of that. Which is why Wesker's demise is the end of act one. Leon had an irrelevant role in the series.

And yes, I've read everything you've said...it's all total bullsh*t. You're doing nothing but rewording the same argument as well.

Bull****? You wanted to use definitions, well I used them too, and it completely debunked your point. You had nothing else to say other than the same wrong thing you've been saying.
 

KennedyKiller

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I'm done rewording so I'm just gonna keep quoting until you get some sense.





I guess every single person who's uttered the phrase "I wish I was never born" has committed suicide.





Leon stating the obvious isn't a character's send off. You're by yourself here. It's no one else's fault but your own that you think Degeneration was the end for Claire.

At least you're admiting to being delusional. I guess we're agreeing on something.



Wesker was the driving force for the story. Leon had nothing to do with any of that. Which is why Wesker's demise is the end of act one. Leon had an irrelevant role in the series.



Bull****? You wanted to use definitions, well I used them too, and it completely debunked your point. You had nothing else to say other than the same wrong thing you've been saying.
No, but when you walk off into the distance and then it cuts to black. I'd say there is a hidden meaning there for the older gamers. And no, Wesker was not the driving force behind the story. How Relatively normal people survived in nearly impossible situations was the driving force, until REmake. RE4 and RE2 both came out before remake, and Leon has always been a relevant character sense his debut. You're just like that dude who was saying Wesker IS Resident Evil. That's just not true. Sure, he's a big part of the story, but RE has NEVER been about trying to Conquer just one guy. It's trying to conquer the enemy that is man made, and devastating. Leon is ten times as relevant as Claire, Rebecca, or Barry will every be. There is a reason he is used so much. Besides Chris and Jill, he's the most active character in the fight against Bio-Terrorism. Hell, he's even relevant TO the Wesker story, because Leon and Ada's stories go hand in hand, and it's Leon who finds the G sample and the Las Plagas sample that Ada steals and gives to Wesker. It's Leon that fought his way through the Ganados and later gets the information to the BSAA which in turn aids Chris in Africa. But I'm going to repeat it again, Act one was NOT initially about Wesker, so when Leon was introduced, of COURSE Wesker wasn't part of his story. Wesker was DEAD for all the gamers knew at that point. Hell, he probably wasn't even a second thought when people were playing through RE2 for the very first time.

Also, Leon WASN'T stating the obvious, because we didn't know WHAT became of Claire in between CODE: Veronica and Degeneration, so for all we know, she COULD have been fighting Bio-Terrorism. But she was, and Capcom probably made it a point to mention that for a REASON. Why else even put it in there...
 

Loki

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Ok Turo, although Claire is my all time favourite character in anything ever, KennedyKiller is right in that we cannot assume that Claire will be brought back into the series due to the fact that Capcom did seem to state that she was retired in Degeneration. So as much as I want her to come back, we should probably use a null hypothesis (science student if you can't tell :p) and assume that she won't come back until we get some evidence to prove otherwise.

KennedyKiller, you don't work for Capcom so you cant say for 100% sure that they have thrown away Claire as a character and will never bring her back, especially after the outcry about Claire and Jill not being in Re6 because many people still see the main RE characters as Chris, Leon, Jill and Claire and want more of them in the games. If Capcom want to bring her back for whatever reason then they will do so, it's not like she's dead in the RE universe.
 

Turo602

The King of Kings
No, but when you walk off into the distance and then it cuts to black. I'd say there is a hidden meaning there for the older gamers.

What distance? He barely walked and then it ended. You're trying to make a ****ty game ending into something more. You see, just like you are now, you're jumping to conclusions...

And no, Wesker was not the driving force behind the story. How Relatively normal people survived in nearly impossible situations was the driving force, until REmake. RE4 and RE2 both came out before remake, and Leon has always been a relevant character sense his debut. You're just like that dude who was saying Wesker IS Resident Evil. That's just not true.

And he was right. He explained himself but since you like ignoring valid reasoning, it probably flew right over you. You're the only one who took what he said literally. The whole story revolved around taking down Umbrella which Wesker was pretty much the face of. Wesker is the one setting the story in motion.

Sure, he's a big part of the story, but RE has NEVER been about trying to Conquer just one guy. It's trying to conquer the enemy that is man made, and devastating.

Not since Resident Evil 5 has that been the story... Wesker has been the number one guy responsible for everything and the main villain of the story.

Leon is ten times as relevant as Claire, Rebecca, or Barry will every be. There is a reason he is used so much. Besides Chris and Jill, he's the most active character in the fight against Bio-Terrorism. Hell, he's even relevant TO the Wesker story, because Leon and Ada's stories go hand in hand, and it's Leon who finds the G sample and the Las Plagas sample that Ada steals and gives to Wesker. It's Leon that fought his way through the Ganados and later gets the information to the BSAA which in turn aids Chris in Africa. But I'm going to repeat it again, Act one was NOT initially about Wesker, so when Leon was introduced, of COURSE Wesker wasn't part of his story. Wesker was DEAD for all the gamers knew at that point. Hell, he probably wasn't even a second thought when people were playing through RE2 for the very first time.

No, he's always been on a different path that the story could have easily survived without. A video game dedicated to how Chris got his shoe from Leon is hardly important or necessary. Leon being an active fighter doesn't make his overall role anymore important to the actual story that is being told. Again, Wesker has always been the bigger picture. He's the one pulling the strings on the puppets.

Also, Leon WASN'T stating the obvious, because we didn't know WHAT became of Claire in between CODE: Veronica and Degeneration, so for all we know, she COULD have been fighting Bio-Terrorism. But she was, and Capcom probably made it a point to mention that for a REASON. Why else even put it in there...

She was with Terrasave, a non-government affiliated human rights organization. She has every reason to join the fight like Leon did, but she didn't. That's what Leon means. She did this before Degeneration which even then, showed her fighting. Why else was she put there? No durr.... Keep her relevant and give us a throwback to Resident Evil 2.

Ok Turo, although Claire is my all time favourite character in anything ever, KennedyKiller is right in that we cannot assume that Claire will be brought back into the series due to the fact that Capcom did seem to state that she was retired in Degeneration. So as much as I want her to come back, we should probably use a null hypothesis (science student if you can't tell :p) and assume that she won't come back until we get some evidence to prove otherwise.

He's not right because I'm not assuming anything and she isn't a retired character, story or appearance wise. My point here is to not dismiss a character due to pretense. I'm not saying she has to come back, just that she very well could. Degeneration in no way confirmed or hinted that the character can never be used again. If I say I'm never gonna get shot again, does that make me bulletproof? It has never been in the character's intention to fight. Sh*t happens. I think it's downright stupid to take a line of dialogue that describes a character as the end of that character's importance to future storylines. That's all it was, a descriptive line about her character, not her future.
 

KennedyKiller

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What distance? He barely walked and then it ended. You're trying to make a ****ty game ending into something more. You see, just like you are now, you're jumping to conclusions...



And he was right. He explained himself but since you like ignoring valid reasoning, it probably flew right over you. You're the only one who took what he said literally. The whole story revolved around taking down Umbrella which Wesker was pretty much the face of. Wesker is the one setting the story in motion.



Not since Resident Evil 5 has that been the story... Wesker has been the number one guy responsible for everything and the main villain of the story.



No, he's always been on a different path that the story could have easily survived without. A video game dedicated to how Chris got his shoe from Leon is hardly important or necessary. Leon being an active fighter doesn't make his overall role anymore important to the actual story that is being told. Again, Wesker has always been the bigger picture. He's the one pulling the strings on the puppets.



She was with Terrasave, a non-government affiliated human rights organization. She has every reason to join the fight like Leon did, but she didn't. That's what Leon means. She did this before Degeneration which even then, showed her fighting. Why else was she put there? No durr.... Keep her relevant and give us a throwback to Resident Evil 2.



He's not right because I'm not assuming anything and she isn't a retired character, story or appearance wise. My point here is to not dismiss a character due to pretense. I'm not saying she has to come back, just that she very well could. Degeneration in no way confirmed or hinted that the character can never be used again. If I say I'm never gonna get shot again, does that make me bulletproof? It has never been in the character's intention to fight. Sh*t happens. I think it's downright stupid to take a line of dialogue that describes a character as the end of that character's importance to future storylines. That's all it was, a descriptive line about her character, not her future.
...If a game leaves an ending open to interpenetration, especially a NON CANON ending, then why not make conclusions based off of the info we already have available. You're not gonna get very far in life if you aren't constantly asking questions...After asking the questions and looking at the info, that's the logical thing to think seeing as we didn't SEE what Shadow was gonna do...

And after CODE: Veronica before Degeneration came out, we didn't KNOW she was with TerraSave. No sh*t we know now. But at the time, we DIDN'T know, making her being a relevant part of the story plausible. Then Degeneration came out, and it pretty much informed us, this is what she's doing now, instead of fighting Bio-Terrorism. And saying Leon took a different path. Yeah, just cause he wasn't hunting down Wesker does NOT mean he wasn't fighting Bi0-Terrorism. Hell, we know that Leon even knew Wesker was a bad dude based on his conversation with Krauser in RE4. So for all we know, there may HAVE been a time that Leon was doing research on going after Wesker. But that's only a possibility. Either way Leon is not any less of a character, and if he had SUCH a drastically different story, then they wouldn't use him so much. And definitely wouldn't put him in a game with Chris where they meet. Plus, based off the conversation they had with each other DURING the game, it's safe to say they'd met, maybe even MULTIPLE times BEFORE Resident Evil 6, so saying Leon isn't a relevant character is TOTAL Bogus. Leon Has fought Bio-Terrorism all over the world. In South America (Darkside Chronicles), Hick Town USA (Degeneration), and Europe (Damnation) all for the purpose OF fighting Bio-Terrorism. So he's JUST as relevant a character, and you cannot say other wise.

Using a characters dialogue is DEFINITELY ok. That's why it's THERE. To give the player, reader, viewer ect. information. Foreshadowing. It was a deep meaningful conversation between Leon and Claire in mid movie, where you realize, "Oh wow. Claire may not be coming back after this..." There wouldn't be a point in putting that conversation in there otherwise...
 

Turo602

The King of Kings
...If a game leaves an ending open to interpenetration, especially a NON CANON ending, then why not make conclusions based off of the info we already have available. You're not gonna get very far in life if you aren't constantly asking questions...After asking the questions and looking at the info, that's the logical thing to think seeing as we didn't SEE what Shadow was gonna do...

What questions? There's nothing that suggests suicide or even confirms your extreme assumption. Stop trying to make your bogus analysis a fact.

And after CODE: Veronica before Degeneration came out, we didn't KNOW she was with TerraSave. No sh*t we know now. But at the time, we DIDN'T know, making her being a relevant part of the story plausible. Then Degeneration came out, and it pretty much informed us, this is what she's doing now, instead of fighting Bio-Terrorism.

Exactly, yet she was involved yet again in an outbreak. How is she safe from outbreaks just because she's not a fighter? Stop being so closed minded and use your head.

And saying Leon took a different path. Yeah, just cause he wasn't hunting down Wesker does NOT mean he wasn't fighting Bi0-Terrorism. Hell, we know that Leon even knew Wesker was a bad dude based on his conversation with Krauser in RE4. So for all we know, there may HAVE been a time that Leon was doing research on going after Wesker. But that's only a possibility. Either way Leon is not any less of a character, and if he had SUCH a drastically different story, then they wouldn't use him so much. And definitely wouldn't put him in a game with Chris where they meet. Plus, based off the conversation they had with each other DURING the game, it's safe to say they'd met, maybe even MULTIPLE times BEFORE Resident Evil 6, so saying Leon isn't a relevant character is TOTAL Bogus. Leon Has fought Bio-Terrorism all over the world. In South America (Darkside Chronicles), Hick Town USA (Degeneration), and Europe (Damnation) all for the purpose OF fighting Bio-Terrorism. So he's JUST as relevant a character, and you cannot say other wise.

What the hell are you not understanding? I'm not repeating myself. Get it through your head already. What you're saying is irrelevant to the main story... Oh, so Leon fights bio-terrorism a lot? Where was he in the taking down of Umbrella? Where was he when Wesker died? If you think Wesker wasn't the central point of the story, then there's no point in arguing with you...

Using a characters dialogue is DEFINITELY ok. That's why it's THERE. To give the player, reader, viewer ect. information. Foreshadowing. It was a deep meaningful conversation between Leon and Claire in mid movie, where you realize, "Oh wow. Claire may not be coming back after this..." There wouldn't be a point in putting that conversation in there otherwise...

So when Leon says "I'm sure you boys didn't just tag along so we could sing "Kumbaya" together at some Boy Scout bonfire. But then again, maybe you did." I guess it means they were there to sing kumbaya... because, why else is it THERE? I've already explained the meaning and once again, you do nothing other than say the same crap over and over.
 
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HELLBOY1980

sometimes dead is betta ..(Jud Crandall)
Are you two gonna start making out ? I keep hitting the posts thinking theres updates or news and its you two flirting back and forth for two pages. Relax, turkeys ... Ya see now your gonna stop cause Im breaking it up.... By the way lets get some damn news and real posts going !!! something good ??? Also .... Monday is E3 and all hell will break lose and lets were really getting a Resident evil game and a damn good one worth a damn !!!
 

Turo602

The King of Kings
Are you two gonna start making out ? I keep hitting the posts thinking theres updates or news and its you two flirting back and forth for two pages. Relax, turkeys ... Ya see now your gonna stop cause Im breaking it up.... By the way lets get some damn news and real posts going !!! something good ??? Also .... Monday is E3 and all hell will break lose and lets were really getting a Resident evil game and a damn good one worth a damn !!!

If you want gay porn, you're on the wrong site...
 

HELLBOY1980

sometimes dead is betta ..(Jud Crandall)
If you want gay porn, you're on the wrong site...
-then quit the sissy fits on here.. -Contribute some news on here for us then . If your so knowledeable of Resident evil put something on here worth my time and others to read we'd be excited for !
 

Turo602

The King of Kings
-then quit the sissy fits on here.. -Contribute some news on here for us then . If your so knowledeable of Resident evil put something on here worth my time and others to read we'd be excited for !

I'm not here to provide you with false hopes and dreams. If you'd like to contribute to our discussion, feel free to do so. Otherwise, no one is going to pull information that doesn't exist out of their ass for you.
 
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HELLBOY1980

sometimes dead is betta ..(Jud Crandall)
I'm not here to provide you with with false hopes and dreams. If you'd like to contribute to our discussion, feel free to do so. Otherwise, no one is going to pull information that doesn't exist out of their ass for you.
-Thats the point .... Its a forum about resident evil not you. So add to forum instead of having ****ing matches with people youll never meet in your real life:love:
 

Turo602

The King of Kings
-Thats the point .... Its a forum about resident evil not you. So add to forum instead of having ****ing matches with people youll never meet in your real life:love:

And no one is discussing me. We're talking about Resident Evil. What's your point? Last I checked, you had no problem whining and crying about somebody "stealing" your post. Where was your contribution there?
 

HELLBOY1980

sometimes dead is betta ..(Jud Crandall)
And no one is discussing me. We're talking about Resident Evil. What's your point? Last I checked, you had no problem whining and crying about somebody "stealing" your post. Where was your contribution there?
-I get under your skin... Good! Your posts will be better now cause of it now. See now your checking through my posts and my profile . So put that towards a better Resident evil link for us or some of your thoughts on what youd like from the series :) Glad I could help you out and you stopped bickering with Kennedy Killer. See, got ya!! Ill see you in a better mood Monday with your thinking cap on and excitement ready for RESIDENT EVIL again..
 

Turo602

The King of Kings
-I get under your skin... Good! Your posts will be better now cause of it now. See now your checking through my posts and my profile . So put that towards a better Resident evil link for us or some of your thoughts on what youd like from the series :) Glad I could help you out and you stopped bickering with Kennedy Killer. See, got ya!! Ill see you in a better mood Monday with your thinking cap on and excitement ready for RESIDENT EVIL again..

I never said you get under my skin. I find you quite entertaining. And no, I'm not checking through anything. You did in fact do that not so long ago... Anyway, I'm sure KK isn't done talking, and I won't be either.
 

HELLBOY1980

sometimes dead is betta ..(Jud Crandall)
I never said you get under my skin. I find you quite entertaining. And no, I'm not checking through anything. You did in fact do that not so long ago... Anyway, I'm sure KK isn't done talking, and I won't be either.
-I d love Hunk to be a main character or even have him unlockable with his own mission at the end like resident evil 2. -Hell, have him be unveiled through the game as being the one and only Alex wesker! I do miss the mansion, loved umbrellas labs in O.R.C . , miss slow zombies, puzzles, horror, mercs like resident evil 4/5/3ds.. No more QTE, stupid A.I partners, crappy multi player-multi more like outbreaks multi !
 

KennedyKiller

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Ok, Hellboy. Since you're so intent on us quitting, I'll actually give it a shot. But first I want you to do something. See, Turo and I having been have a semi-legitimate discussion. So, I'm willing to stop, because it IS getting old. Do you think Claire is retired. Yes or no. Answer this, and no matter WHAT your answer, I'll stop arguing.
 

HELLBOY1980

sometimes dead is betta ..(Jud Crandall)
Ok, Hellboy. Since you're so intent on us quitting, I'll actually give it a shot. But first I want you to do something. See, Turo and I having been have a semi-legitimate discussion. So, I'm willing to stop, because it IS getting old. Do you think Claire is retired. Yes or no. Answer this, and no matter WHAT your answer, I'll stop arguing.
- NO, shes just hasnt been anywhere chris has in a while... plus after the first animated movie theres just too much **** going down for her to quit now and retire!!!
 

KennedyKiller

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- NO, shes just hasnt been anywhere chris has in a while... plus after the first animated movie theres just too much **** going down for her to quit now and retire!!!
Alright, so Turo. Your argument MAY have merit. Only time will tell. I still think she's retired, but maybe you're not a TOTAL Fool.
 

Turo602

The King of Kings
Alright, so Turo. Your argument MAY have merit. Only time will tell. I still think she's retired, but maybe you're not a TOTAL Fool.

There's no doubt about it. It doesn't take an outsider to see that. You've ignored all my points against your retirement claims... Gee, I wonder why?

Also, shove that half insult up your ass. I'm no fool.
 

KennedyKiller

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There's no doubt about it. It doesn't take an outsider to see that. You've ignored all my points against your retirement claims... Gee, I wonder why?

Also, shove that half insult up your ass. I'm no fool.
...I wouldn't say your points were ANY better than mine. Total matter of opinion and perception.
 
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