Resident Evil 5 Leon and Ada vs Wesker-hypothetical
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Meh, not really. Bruno is right by saying that Leon would no doubtly get killed by Wesker. As for Ada, she'd never fight him, only if the Organization orders her so. To destroy all the things she worked hard for, just for Leon? Nah. Don't forget that if it wasn't for Ada, Leon would have died a long time ago, even in RE4. Mendez, Krauser and Saddler, they were all about to kill him if Ada wasn't there. And even if they'd fight Wesker together, Wesker would own them all in seven minutes. Not to mention what he'd do with Leon. And again, Ada would be smart enough to know that she'd get caught if she helps Leon. She knows that Wesker isn't stupid.
Leon vs wesker, would end in leon's death... although the thread is, Leon & Ada
They both work well together and suppliment eachother pretty well.
The luckiest cat in the world & the world deadliest opportunist teaming together makes Wesker RiP
But luckily we don't really have to bother because wesker is dead and Resident evil is much better for it as he was in real danger of becoming a laughing stalk.
They both work well together and suppliment eachother pretty well.
The luckiest cat in the world & the world deadliest opportunist teaming together makes Wesker RiP
But luckily we don't really have to bother because wesker is dead and Resident evil is much better for it as he was in real danger of becoming a laughing stalk.
We also know Ada disobeys orders to help Leon. They'd both lose because Ada would stay behind to help Leon. She'd probably convince him to run though. Leon ain't stupid. He knows he'd get owned and Ada isn't a good hand to hand fighter so they couldn't even double team him like Chris and Jill or Chris and Sheva. The key here is Chris is instinctive and strong, Jill is a brawler and gets dirty, and Sheva's a good fighter and doesn't stay down. Ada... she keeps her distance which you can't really do against someone like Wesker. Leon thinks fast, but Wesker thinks faster. Leon always makes it out because he uses his head. In a battle of wits, Wesker's got everyone beat. Leon and Ada are fundamentally beaten.
It'd depend on luck being the deciding factor.
Now if it was Leon and Claire, that might be a little different -luck or not.
It'd depend on luck being the deciding factor.
Now if it was Leon and Claire, that might be a little different -luck or not.
The only part i don't agree with is having Leon run away while leaving ada holding the bag ( because leon's smart )
Leon is Genius, not cowardice. Wesker is the real coward, having to rely on his little Potions to extend his man-hood just to get on in the world.Ashley from RE4 is more of a man than Wesker ever was.
Leon is Genius, not cowardice. Wesker is the real coward, having to rely on his little Potions to extend his man-hood just to get on in the world.Ashley from RE4 is more of a man than Wesker ever was.
I'm in agreement, but you also don't mess with dudes who will throw missiles at you to hide that cowardice.
Does Wesker really think faster? Leon surely has much more combat experience. As far as a combat situation goes, Leon is smarter. Ada seems to have some nice moves, nice enough to constantly have slo-mo in all of her fight scenes.
Luck, that is one word that I would use to describe Leon, I think something like that would happen, something really lucky.
Wesker is much smarter than Leon, but in the final fight in RE5, he's under the effects of Uroboros and the large ammount of serum.
I don't think Leon has much more combat experience, as he mostly dealt with biohazards, at least until he started to work directly under the orders of the president... And Wesker has also dealt with a lot of biohazards, and i'm sure he had trained a lot for a combat situation. Leon would really need A BIG LOT of luck.
Ada, in the other hand, though not very smart, knows how to take advantage of the situation and can be very unpredictable, so she'd have a little more chances than Leon. However, she seems to be very poor at hand-to-hand combat, though no one could defeat Wesker in hand-to-hand (not even Chris).
Booksmart, yes, combat wise, Leon all the way. Wesker worked on BOWs, he was a lab rab, then was in the STARS role, he didn't earn it. Leon had teh training for being a police officer, as well as all of the government agent business.
Wesker simply had the superhuman strenght and agility, as well as apparently the new martial arts stuff that was just tagged on.
Ada is smart, intelligent and all, though does let her emotions, for Leon for instance, get in the way.
As for hand-to-hand, Nemesis would be a good opponent. Surely Wesker is much faster and more intelligent than him, strenght probably about even, no way to determine that though. Though I'd bet it would come down to Nemesis being able to take more damage. Of course the situation here being hand-to-hand, no weapons, no environment to get in the way, etc.
Wesker's downfall was the fact that he "toyed" with Chris. I guess due to the history, he wanted to savour the moment where he finally ridded of Chris, and was trying to figure out the best way and the most satisfactory way of killing him. I feel this is what backfired against him, as Chris had multiple opportunities to stop Wesker, and eventually succeeded.
I don't think Leon and Ada would get off the hook so easily, and Wesker would have no reason to spare them or "toy" with them if they were to ever tangle. Because let's face it, Wesker is obviously more powerful than everyone else. He's probably smarter too, being a scientist and all.
Oh, and Chris is a lot more battle savvy than Leon and Ada to start with as well anyway...
I don't think Leon and Ada would get off the hook so easily, and Wesker would have no reason to spare them or "toy" with them if they were to ever tangle. Because let's face it, Wesker is obviously more powerful than everyone else. He's probably smarter too, being a scientist and all.
Oh, and Chris is a lot more battle savvy than Leon and Ada to start with as well anyway...
I agree with you.
Wesker completely lost it the minute he met with Spencer. He went from building a new Umbrella using Tricel and the 3rd Org's resources into being the king of the world.
Agreed. Wesker just lost his mind.
As for Leon having more experience... need I remind people that he was a capable leader of S.T.A.R.S. Alpha Team and had already been thuroughly trained in combat and anti-BOW tactics before Leon even started his first day on the job in RPD? Come on now. Wesker tops everyone in the experience department with the exception of a few who he doesn't have an arch-enemy status with, such as Barry and Billy. Even then, I'm not sure to what extent Billy's training is. He was a considerable rank during the Ecliptic Express incident so he could possibly be up there. Barry for certain simply due to age and having bounced around in similar lines of work. Leon's fresh meat. Can't pull that one.
As for Leon having more experience... need I remind people that he was a capable leader of S.T.A.R.S. Alpha Team and had already been thuroughly trained in combat and anti-BOW tactics before Leon even started his first day on the job in RPD? Come on now. Wesker tops everyone in the experience department with the exception of a few who he doesn't have an arch-enemy status with, such as Barry and Billy. Even then, I'm not sure to what extent Billy's training is. He was a considerable rank during the Ecliptic Express incident so he could possibly be up there. Barry for certain simply due to age and having bounced around in similar lines of work. Leon's fresh meat. Can't pull that one.
I thought it was common fact that Wesker, yes was a STARS Captain, but he didn't earn that. He didn't have years of training, as a member of RPD, then work his way up to that position, it was handed to him, by Umbrella and the crooked chief of police. Being the Captain of STARS Alpha, and just STARS in general, is not a credential to any sort of experience to be compared with legit experience had by Leon, and maybe even Ada.
Billy was a leutienent(however it's spelled) in the US military and was being court marshalled in RE0.
But back to Al. What anti BOW tactics did he know? He was a lab rat, he worked on them. He didn't know any tactics, any guerrilla warfare, nothing. He helped make, and surely studied most of them, probably, so he was privy to their existence, ridding of the shock factor that probably got some of both Alpha and Bravo killed. He might have known of certain weakness of some, but he certainly wasn't the most capable member of STARS, not even close.
We shouldn't give Wesker too much credit, especially before he had his powers. Losing his mind when he met with Spencer at his estate in Europe, probably, and definately stole his plans, but that's another story.
Don't forget that Wesker was inolved with a lot of biohazards while he was working for the Third Organization (between RE1 and LIN). He had to fight off some BOW's, negotiate with powerful criminals and be ready for any kind of hostilities.Although we didin't see most of these scenes, he had to do a lot of jobs similar to Ada's so they'd have money for their plans.
I remember, namely with Javier Hidalgo. He did some stuff too, like getting T-Veronica, or T-Alexia as he called it at the end of CVX.
He had some experience for sure, but not as much as some make it out to be. He gets a little too much credit sometimes.
Well actually, while with The Organization, other than the stuff from CVX & UC(Operation TALOS), as well as some behind the scenes work in DSC's Operation Javier, we don't know that he had too much going on. All leading up to the meeting with Spencer, by Spencer's request. Having his butler give Irving the info, to get it to Ada, to get it to Wesker.
I don't want to take away too much from Wesker, or make his experiences there trivial, but I do think he gets way too much credit sometimes, so much that I had to repeat that.
Actually, Wesker has no ties at all with The Organization. I was talking about the Third Organization, for which he worked since the mansion incident and until it's possible dissolution between LIN and RE5. I think he got ownership of the 3rd Org after he retrieved Umbrella's backup in 2003, or at least he jumped into one of the highest ranks. All he did there was collect data and biological samples, and make a lot of money, which he later used to help Tricell's BOW department (better speaking: to seduce Excella) and start the Uroboros plan.
Ah, that's why you called it 3rd Organization.
Do you mean the mysterious "S" mentioned in Ada's 5th report?Wesker was working with/for The Organization after the Mansion Incident, working with the likes of Ada and later Krauser too. During such incidents as Raccoon City, Rockfort, Operation Javier, TALOS, & the Europe stuff with Ada to retrieve Las Plagas. The stuff in Europe was 2004, and the cliffhanger ending left us guessing.
The cliffhanger of course being that Ada, under their orders, gave Al the fake Plaga sample, and reflected about him being in contact with a pharmaceutical company, "S"(in her 5th report of course).
LIN when he kills Spence, that was 2005 right, judgeing by Chris & Jill's ages, according to the character select screen. It's been awhile since I read the Albert Wesker File, or any others from RE5, so I don't recall the exact order of certain events after that, but of course the stuff with Excella & TRICELL also took place around that time.
What is this 3rd Organziation though? S?
The 3rd Organization is mentioned in Archives and some guides, and it is the only "Organization" Wesker worked for. It is different from "The Organization" Ada worked for.
Let me explain a bit better: Wesker joined the 3rd Organization right after RE1 becaused he offered them data and biological samples. He met Ada and worked with her to retrieve the G virus. However, i'm not sure if she was REALLY working for the 3rd Org or spying for The Org. Wesker continued to worked woth the 3rd Org, and in 2004, he invited Ada to work with him once more. However, this time, she was spying for The Org and had orders not to deliver the Control Plaga to Wesker (through he kinda predicted it and somehow obtained a dead control plaga).
So, there's two "Organizations": Wesker's ans Ada's. The Org seems to be benevolent, i mean, not wanting to develop BOW's, but to study them instead.
"S" is Tricell, they used that letter as a codename for "SeaShell", Tricell's original name (they changed it due to the "Shell" oil company).
http://projectumbrella.net/articles/3rd-Organization
http://projectumbrella.net/articles/Organization
Let me explain a bit better: Wesker joined the 3rd Organization right after RE1 becaused he offered them data and biological samples. He met Ada and worked with her to retrieve the G virus. However, i'm not sure if she was REALLY working for the 3rd Org or spying for The Org. Wesker continued to worked woth the 3rd Org, and in 2004, he invited Ada to work with him once more. However, this time, she was spying for The Org and had orders not to deliver the Control Plaga to Wesker (through he kinda predicted it and somehow obtained a dead control plaga).
So, there's two "Organizations": Wesker's ans Ada's. The Org seems to be benevolent, i mean, not wanting to develop BOW's, but to study them instead.
"S" is Tricell, they used that letter as a codename for "SeaShell", Tricell's original name (they changed it due to the "Shell" oil company).
http://projectumbrella.net/articles/3rd-Organization
http://projectumbrella.net/articles/Organization