Cultural discussion

[La Femme Fatale]

haha what hockey game? I know hockey in Canada is like soccer in Brazil. you guys have that as a second religion. was it the Olympics?

No, it was the NHL. Boston beat Vancouver in game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals... Vancouver went ape****.

 

[svp]

No, it was the NHL. Boston beat Vancouver in game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals... Vancouver went ape****.

hahaha Im watching my rangers right now lol...sorry about that aye

 

[Romero]

that sucks, has that ever happened to you? I have been robbed a lot, especially from my college roommate, he was from Finland lol. yeah, America has the same BS law that doesn't require self defense (guns or whatever) unless you actually get attacked. I was never attacked but I have been in many fights. That law sucks because if the person comes into your house...it might be too late until you notice that he has a gun. though some US states let a registered person carry a gun around

I've had things stolen from me on a few occasions but never from my home, and I've never been robbed. I've never been in a fight but if I meet a burglar I guess I'll grab any suitable item and attack them with it. No time to think about legal junk. I also have a sign warning about booby-traps, but who knows if that helps. I guess if they are high on drugs they don't care about nothing.

America has the same BS law that doesn't require self defense (guns or whatever) unless you actually get attacked

Unless? I'm a bit confused by this sentence. In America you can shoot anyone who makes a forced entry into your home? Probably the laws varies a bit from state to state, but I know you can go quite far when protecting your home.

We can only carry a gun when we have to; like delivering/fetching it at a gunsmith or on the way to or from a shooting range. And of course when hunting. We can never carry any weapon just because we want to. But on your own property this law don't apply, of course.

 

[svp]

I've had things stolen from me on a few occasions but never from my home, and I've never been robbed. I've never been in a fight but if I meet a burglar I guess I'll grab any suitable item and attack them with it. No time to think about legal junk. I also have a sign warning about booby-traps, but who knows if that helps. I guess if they are high on drugs they don't care about nothing.


Unless? I'm a bit confused by this sentence. In America you can shoot anyone who makes a forced entry into your home? Probably the laws varies a bit from state to state, but I know you can go quite far when protecting your home.

We can only carry a gun when we have to; like delivering/fetching it at a gunsmith or on the way to or from a shooting range. And of course when hunting. We can never carry any weapon just because we want to. But on your own property this law don't apply, of course.

I am not exactly sure what the law states, but I do know that you are allowed to attack someone entering your home if they attack you ex: show a weapon. does that explain it better? just like your law.

 

[Romero]

I am not exactly sure what the law states, but I do know that you are allowed to attack someone entering your home if they attack you ex: show a weapon. does that explain it better? just like your law.

I think that in some American states, you are allowed to shoot an intruder no questions asked. But it sounds like this is not the case in your state.

In Norway we can use force (also lethal force) in order to save a victim's life, but you will have to prove that it saved life or you'll be convicted for injury or murder. If there's a slightest doubt you'll be prosecuted.

The criminal can file a claim for compensation if you hurt him just a little bit. That means a big fine + compensation if you beat him up.

It is beyond sick.

 

[svp]

I think that in some American states, you are allowed to shoot an intruder no questions asked. But it sounds like this is not the case in your state.

In Norway we can use force (also lethal force) in order to save a victim's life, but you will have to prove that it saved life or you'll be convicted for injury or murder. If there's a slightest doubt you'll be prosecuted.

The criminal can file a claim for compensation if you hurt him just a little bit. That means a big fine + compensation if you beat him up.

It is beyond sick.

ah that sucks, they were the ones that entered your property in the first place! they should not be able to make excuses, but yeah...my state is kinda strict, except you are allowed to do things like buy fireworks and ride a motorcycle without a helmet

 

[sadistic_greyfox]

If an intruder comes into my house I am killing him, no questions asked. That's a direct attack on my family, problem is folks dont lawyer up after these things, talk to the cop without one present and get there story f'ed up.

 

[Romero]

As for the gov's control of the media causing American prudery, I am very aware of that. I myself find it uncomfortable at a resort in Spain seeing nude men walking around. but that is just something Americans are brought up with. we adopted our prudery mainly from the English since they colonized America the earliest. I find it kinda funny how prude we all are, and kinda cute. and now, I don't think America is doing a good job at filtering its shows and media. we are not that Innocent, look at shows like jersey shore and series like Spartacus.

Prudery on TV is government controlled, but you also have so much prudery elsewhere where your government have no say.

Three examples:

1) Youtube removed a video of Kate Upton where she danced, she was not naked but showed "too much skin". That's a lie, it was removed because the woman has big boobs and is too sexy. Ms Upton is very popular and Youtube received so much complaints on their censorship that they made the video available again for 18+ and after some more complaints available for all audiences.
This is just one example of a Youtube "mistake" and I'm sure there are thousands of others.

Even conservative Fox News reacted on the removal of the Kate Upton video.

The video sharing site has allowed videos of other stars like Selena Gomez, Justin Bieber and Chris Brown doing the exact same dance to remain up and unrestricted. So was there a double standard going on, at least before the “mistake” was resolved?

In other words, if you are busty, blonde and wearing a bikini, are you not allowed to pull some sexy, club-like moves without red flags being raised?

“I seriously do not understand how a girl dancing – clothed! – violates a nudity policy. It seems that YouTube has a very large and inexplicable grey area for what they consider ‘too sexy’ and that ‘too sexy’ is just as ‘bad’ as ‘nudity’ and therefore violating policy,” said Amelia McDonell-Parry, editor at entertainment/pop culture website TheFrisky.com. “They should really give more specific rules to their users: ‘No sexy dancing in bikinis if you have larger than C-cup breasts!’ Ridiculous.”

2) Apple have some rules that prohibits nudity which means some serious and well respected newspapers have to censor their electronic papers on iPad. Apple does not only have very strict policy for themselves, they enforce their policy onto third parties which is extremely arrogant.

3) Microsoft have had some prudery issues too but I don't remember exactly what it was. I think some of it had to do with online backup.

I don't think Americans are particular prude in private, but in public and in business the Victorian Era still rules. I think this contrast is strange.
This is the one thing that really infuriates me (especially when they try to enforce their policy abroad), but I guess many Americans thinks we are strange, and maybe we are. But almost all of the large global companies are American, almost all entertainment industry is American, so it's a one-way influence where we have to deal with their policy.

The only thing that kind of bothered me about most Americans is that y'all, for one reason or another, seem unable to differentiate Canadian money from Monopoly money and it gets on my right nerves.

It's funny how Americans treats all other currencies as "funny money".

If an intruder comes into my house I am killing him, no questions asked. That's a direct attack on my family, problem is folks dont lawyer up after these things, talk to the cop without one present and get there story f'ed up.

I can understand that you would do it if you had to, but killing someone just because you legally can do it is wrong. I want more freedom to physically defend myself and my home and not risking prison for doing so, but I could not shoot someone unless it was absolutely necessary. Using a gun to gain control over the situation is fine, but firing it is another matter, and shooting to kill is definitely another matter. I know I would get big problems with myself if I injured or killed someone "just because I could". I think many people understand what they can do without understanding the consequences of it. But as an ex-soldier I probably understand this better than the average person. ROE (simple version).

 

[svp]

Prudery on TV is government controlled, but you also have so much prudery elsewhere where your government have no say.

Three examples:

1) Youtube removed a video of Kate Upton where she danced, she was not naked but showed "too much skin". That's a lie, it was removed because the woman has big boobs and is too sexy. Ms Upton is very popular and Youtube received so much complaints on their censorship that they made the video available again for 18+ and after some more complaints available for all audiences.
This is just one example of a Youtube "mistake" and I'm sure there are thousands of others.

Even conservative Fox News reacted on the removal of the Kate Upton video.



2) Apple have some rules that prohibits nudity which means some serious and well respected newspapers have to censor their electronic papers on iPad. Apple does not only have very strict policy for themselves, they enforce their policy onto third parties which is extremely arrogant.

3) Microsoft have had some prudery issues too but I don't remember exactly what it was. I think some of it had to do with online backup.

I don't think Americans are particular prude in private, but in public and in business the Victorian Era still rules. I think this contrast is strange.
This is the one thing that really infuriates me (especially when they try to enforce their policy abroad), but I guess many Americans thinks we are strange, and maybe we are. But almost all of the large global companies are American, almost all entertainment industry is American, so it's a one-way influence where we have to deal with their policy.



It's funny how Americans treats all other currencies as "funny money".



I can understand that you would do it if you had to, but killing someone just because you legally can do it is wrong. I want more freedom to physically defend myself and my home and not risking prison for doing so, but I could not shoot someone unless it was absolutely necessary. Using a gun to gain control over the situation is fine, but firing it is another matter, and shooting to kill is definitely another matter. I know I would get big problems with myself if I injured or killed someone "just because I could". I think many people understand what they can do without understanding the consequences of it. But as an ex-soldier I probably understand this better than the average person. ROE (simple version).

I do agree with you in many ways, the us gov and its companies try to monitor every aspect of pop culture except some reality shows. I am not saying we are all North Koreans but we are a very prude nation. As for the u tube video regarding Kate Upton. I am aware of that incident. I don't think its right to ban that video, yes she has big boobs (whats wrong with that) and yes she danced, but it was not in a skimpy way at all. I recently googled famous European women in the media, and a lot of famous women were out and about on the beach posing nude or had nude candids on European beaches. I find the European mentality of a free and insecure state of mind very laid back. obviously they are not all skanky types of women, but that is how they are raised....Not giving a damn about what people think! and I like that mentality about Europeans. America has to loosen up in my opinion. there was once an article about a porn star that was giving to charity but the charity didn't except her donations because she used to be in porn. That situation resides in the public image of Americans having to have this clean, cookie cutter image in order to be good people. there are many sinners out there with hearts of gold. I would trust a biker with my money over a person from the government or the private sector. I have met many underdog types that are better people then anyone I ever met in a white collar business .