• Welcome to the Resident Evil Community Forum!

    We're a group of fans who are passionate about the Resident Evil series and video gaming.

    Register Log in

Amazing Viral Video! Message To Humanity: The Time is Now - The rEvolution Is Coming! (Powerful)

Silverback

Moving Mountains
This would have to be one of the most powerful videos I have ever seen with the images, the voice and the music in the background. I had chills going from my neck going down my spine!

This video needs to go viral! It shows just how wide spread the protests are in America and the world! The time is coming - power to the 99%!!

Here is the description from the video:

"A revolution is coming to America.. Not Just America, but the World. People are waking up and finally realizing how the world works and that their rights as free human beings are slowly being taken away from them.. The 99% are rising up!"

 
Powerful, yes. But make no mistake, it's propaganda as shameless as any other.

Don't get me wrong, I fully support the Occupy protesters.
All I'm saying is that it's easier to point out a problem than it is to fix one.

My cousin's husband was recently put on a local television show to debate against some of his local occupy protesters. He's about as right-wing as you can get, but he had a point. If you want to make a difference, sleeping in a tent and shouting won't get it done. Without organizing to influence political elections you're not doing anything but shouting and hoping that the very people you're angry at decide to reform themselves.
 
You're right, but I don't see how we can really make a difference when politics is full of vipers, so to speak. Politics in general just seems like a bad idea to me.

What ever happened to common sense? Seems many people these days are too dumb to understand the word, these days.
 
I don't see how we can really make a difference when politics is full of vipers, so to speak. Politics in general just seems like a bad idea to me.

That's where you're wrong. If you're upset with politics you don't just get rid of them. You can throw out politicians by voting. The only way to influence politics is get involved and I don't just mean voting. The Tea Party was doing this and they made their voice heard on a political level by organizing and voting for their own candidates.

That's the road Occupy needs to take if they don't want to fizzle out.


What ever happened to common sense? Seems many people these days are too dumb to understand the word, these days.
I'm not sure which idiots you're directing that at since idiots are abundant in every political party and social class.
 
Um, right. Anyway, what you need at the very base level is a constitutional amendment that places checks and balances - or better yet, completely restrains corporations from donating large amounts of money to politicians. If all the politicians weren't completely and utterly bought out by corporate donors and fuelled by corporate interests, then there would be far less of a need to protest against those institutions in the first place. And it's not as if you can take it to Congress either, 'cause it'd just be in one ear and out the other. What people need to do is mobilize their resources somehow and get the individual states themselves to call for constitutional conventions to commission their own amendments. That's really one of the only ways you can sort of bypass Congress but I think even that's a long shot. We will see.
 
Um, right. Anyway, what you need at the very base level is a constitutional amendment that places checks and balances - or better yet, completely restrains corporations from donating large amounts of money to politicians. If all the politicians weren't completely and utterly bought out by corporate donors and fuelled by corporate interests, then there would be far less of a need to protest against those institutions in the first place. And it's not as if you can take it to Congress either, 'cause it'd just be in one ear and out the other. What people need to do is mobilize their resources somehow and get the individual states themselves to call for constitutional conventions to commission their own amendments. That's really one of the only ways you can sort of bypass Congress but I think even that's a long shot. We will see.
That sounds like a good idea. There are groups that may try to prevent it from happening, but it's still worth trying. :)
Truth be told, I don't even know much about whats going on, other than the Governments of the world are putting a one world government set up, "because we will demand it". All a part of their goddamn plan for world takeover. I'll give anyone proof if need be, though theres now tons of proof on YouTube.
 
The people in those videos waving their signs and what not are too close to action to notice the Government Sheep Dogs run circles around them.

This ''AWAKENING'' will see mankind being no more alert than slumberous sheep being rounded into the pen.

Looks good, gets the juices flowing, makes all the right noises and strums the heart strings for sure...and can all be tracked on youtube, of all places....

Every now and then Humanity gets all sentimental about the wreckage they've caused, and the government, who have thousands of years experience in the containment of man and his mind, set up pressure valves so steam can be let out without leaving a scratch on the existing system.

Some think they are wise by saying the government are '' always one step ahead in the game of chess '' no, they invented the bloody thing, it's everybody else who signed upto it in the first place and allova sudden have decided we dont like the rules.

On the whole world government thing.. very simply, The whole of the America's will unite as will Europe who will in turn be partners (officially)...... meanwhile, China and asia will be made out to be the big bad wolf of the 21st century, so that and a couple of wars ( probably korea ) will eventually see us or them fold, and come into the American/European/asia side, or vice versa. This plan is centuries old, reallllly old..

Governments are scared of their people because they know all too well it only takes one person, (this is how deadly a single human being is ) Name any revolutionary...they all started by waking up one day and realized who they were...

ever stopped to wonder why humans rarely feature at number 1 on these (worlds most dangerous predators) things on tv ? nevermind the government being scared, you'd be scared if you caught yourself in the mirror. said it before, i'll say it again... we didn't get to the top of the chain by sitting around and banging on about rights..

The closest i've come to see a human ( in his natural envirnment ) and no i don't mean a tribe in Africa, when i say natural state, i mean mentally, because all of this is a war on the mind....is to watch very closely, someone who is in the middle of fasting....after a certain time, their instincts kick in because the mind and body thinks it's in danger... remove shelter,food or safety from the average human, and you'll get a little glimpse of the very creature who murdered his way to the top with a razor sharp intellect, an even sharper killer instinct casted in an almost unbreakable no mercy attitude...

This is why we have Uni's, schools, colleges and all that. It's not to educate you.... it's to refine you... it's to shake off your self awareness and pigeon hole you.it's to blunt your edge and reduce your point... Really think those who over look the uni's of the world give a **** about gay rights or anyother ? not really, they just want you to pick a mask so they know where you are on the chess board.

We've been through all this before... the 60's to mention one. it was '' their time '' back then... and as was said afterwards, '' the bombs still dropped '' certainly did, infact, they've increased....odd that isn't it , or is it ?

I used the phrase sheep dog in it's fullest at the start of this stupidly long rant, because that is what this is... Man will not waken from this slumber, he will not turn out the lights, because he simply doesn't trust himself, others or that which crawls in the dark.

For an illustration, go watch the wizard of oz, and keep your eyes fixed on the cowardly lion, he is modern man...being a lion isn't enough, you need to know you are.

Listen, i want change just as much, but you have to be very very careful for what you wish for....revolution, always brings pain, true revolution that is.. not soap dodgers in tents.

this isn't gay rights, womens rights, animal right or anyother rights... this is about US.... not them...us. Before we even try and attempt something on this scale, we really need to get the creases ironed out... because it'll end in tears.

There is no Lord of the rings like Shire, not in the past, not now, and not in the future, so we can just get that out our heads...

It's a good dream, it's a good thing to stride for.... but we are MILES away from such a thing when there are still large pockets of people who can't get over the colour or preference of others.

We, and our loved ones before us, have paid into this very system we are in, they've even died for it or indeed been killed by it... we work, pay our taxes and try to live good lives and do right by others even if we're no good at it. So we need to be really honest with ourselves, and ask why now ? and change it to what ? are you even ready ? do you even know what's going on ? would the new system even ignite with the monsters still lurking in the halls ?

the Shire you're all screaming for comes with a very very very heavy price, and i don't think alot of people realize this....you think America's debt is shocking ? the debt for this new system is far greater.

phew... sorry for putting you through this...post, but i needed to get it off my chest.

I don't wish or mean to poo-poo the efforts of these well meaning people, but THIS, isn't the time... i'm sorry to say.

if anything, it's good to know sheep can still stand, it shows me their hearts are still beating, and so long as it does, there is always hope.
 
^ GREAT post. I agree, especially about the schools. I learnt next to nothing in school. They're not there for educating, like you say, they're there to indoctrinate.

Also, keeping us in school as children/teenagers keeps us from forming a greater bond with our families. Instead of learning from our parents and what they faced growing up, we are... made to go to school by law. Where in the brainwashing and mental conditioning begins.

The truth just forces itself outta you sometimes. I felt compelled to carry on, to a small extent from where you left off.

It interests me though, how you say all it takes is one person to make the Elite **** themselves and panic...

Great points, mate. ^^
 
^ GREAT post. I agree, especially about the schools. I learnt next to nothing in school. They're not there for educating, like you say, they're there to indoctrinate.

Also, keeping us in school as children/teenagers keeps us from forming a greater bond with our families. Instead of learning from our parents and what they faced growing up, we are... made to go to school by law. Where in the brainwashing and mental conditioning begins.

The truth just forces itself outta you sometimes. I felt compelled to carry on, to a small extent from where you left off.

It interests me though, how you say all it takes is one person to make the Elite **** themselves and panic...

Great points, mate. ^^
Cheers man,

At the end of the day,
There are too many people blaming Religion, politics, colour, sex,hollywood,aliens,the weather or their luck.When in actual fact, it's us who is holding us back....

There are those who want to go back to living off the land, there are those who want to go live on another planet... and there are those of course, who don't care so long as they have the latest phone or ipod.

We know the bed is a mess, this is why we don't want to make it because we know what we'll have to do afterwards... so its best ( in our minds ) to just make up loads of excuses and change the sheets from time to time.
 
Cheers man,

At the end of the day,
There are too many people blaming Religion, politics, colour, sex,hollywood,aliens,the weather or their luck.When in actual fact, it's us who is holding us back....

There are those who want to go back to living off the land, there are those who want to go live on another planet... and there are those of course, who don't care so long as they have the latest phone or ipod.

We know the bed is a mess, this is why we don't want to make it because we know what we'll have to do afterwards... so its best ( in our minds ) to just make up loads of excuses and change the sheets from time to time.
Exactly. I think it would be a good idea to turn back and live off of the land. Thats how we were thousands of years ago and we survived upto modern day through these means.

We can colonize other planets when we learn to treat this one with respect, first.

Do away with politics and religions and life could get better from there if we work at it.
 
This is why we have Uni's, schools, colleges and all that. It's not to educate you.... it's to refine you... it's to shake off your self awareness and pigeon hole you.it's to blunt your edge and reduce your point... Really think those who over look the uni's of the world give a **** about gay rights or anyother ? not really, they just want you to pick a mask so they know where you are on the chess board.
GREAT post. I agree, especially about the schools. I learnt next to nothing in school. They're not there for educating, like you say, they're there to indoctrinate.

Also, keeping us in school as children/teenagers keeps us from forming a greater bond with our families. Instead of learning from our parents and what they faced growing up, we are... made to go to school by law. Where in the brainwashing and mental conditioning begins.
Before I make a comment here, I'd like to ask the both of you something first. How long have you actually spent attending a university, college or other post-secondary educational institution?
 
Before I make a comment here, I'd like to ask the both of you something first. How long have you actually spent attending a university, college or other post-secondary educational institution?
I've spent about a year in college, which admittedly, was fun. I was studying art.

I don't personally know if colleges and universities condition us. I think it's just schools, at a point where we're too young to really notice whats taking place.
 
The people in those videos waving their signs and what not are too close to action to notice the Government Sheep Dogs run circles around them.

This ''AWAKENING'' will see mankind being no more alert than slumberous sheep being rounded into the pen.

Looks good, gets the juices flowing, makes all the right noises and strums the heart strings for sure...and can all be tracked on youtube, of all places....

Every now and then Humanity gets all sentimental about the wreckage they've caused, and the government, who have thousands of years experience in the containment of man and his mind, set up pressure valves so steam can be let out without leaving a scratch on the existing system.

Some think they are wise by saying the government are '' always one step ahead in the game of chess '' no, they invented the bloody thing, it's everybody else who signed upto it in the first place and allova sudden have decided we dont like the rules.
It's designed to by the people. People can't exist without a government (I cite Lord of the Flies). They are capable of founding one and reforming one, as history tells us. The part of the problem that can be fixed is corruption in the system. To do that, you need to vote for candidates who don't rely on corporate donations and, frankly, are opposed to them. I hate to attach a candidate to this (though I'm not affiliated with the party) but Ron Paul is a good example of someone like that.

On the whole world government thing.. very simply, The whole of the America's will unite as will Europe who will in turn be partners (officially)...... meanwhile, China and asia will be made out to be the big bad wolf of the 21st century, so that and a couple of wars ( probably korea ) will eventually see us or them fold, and come into the American/European/asia side, or vice versa. This plan is centuries old, reallllly old..
That will never happen. It's ludicrous. The major Asian powers would sooner nuke each other to death than form an alliance at present. Even 50 years from now, most like. I speak of course of North Korea, China, Russia, and Japan. There's blood between those four be it for past war crimes or from being friendly with the western powers. Russia might have tried something like that (like in The Great War), but I don't see them forming any form of alliance with any of the above mentioned except maybe Japan. China and Japan hate each other completely. Japan massacred the Chinese during World War II and refuses to cite it in their textbooks. China wants to overtake Taiwan but Japan and the western powers won't allow it. That leaves North Korea who would be left to choose either China or Japan as an ally, as having both is out of the question. Any of them could probably ally with someone out of the Middle East, but only North Korea would consider it. The rest of them have too many western ties. The rest of Asia doesn't have the technology, resources, or man power to even consider global war. The squabbles between neighboring countries in Asia buy-and-large keep them from exponential growth (citing Israel/Palestine, India/Pakistan).

Governments are scared of their people because they know all too well it only takes one person, (this is how deadly a single human being is ) Name any revolutionary...they all started by waking up one day and realized who they were...
No, it's always general discontent backing those individuals. Ghandi had a movement behind him that made him impossible to ignore. Martin Luther King Jr. as well. Hell, even Hitler would have been nothing without Germany being upset over what the war and the Treaty of Versailles had done to it. With no movement behind you (i.e. general agreeing sentiment), you do not represent the public opinion: you are a vigilante. (citing Lee Harvey Oswald)

ever stopped to wonder why humans rarely feature at number 1 on these (worlds most dangerous predators) things on tv ? nevermind the government being scared, you'd be scared if you caught yourself in the mirror. said it before, i'll say it again... we didn't get to the top of the chain by sitting around and banging on about rights..
What the discovery channel ranks as a dominant predator has absolutely nothing to do with human society. We dominated nature with larger brains, opposable thumbs, conscious thought, and the ability to develop technology through all of the three. Survival in the discovery channel sense of the word is beneath us now. Whining about rights isn't how we got where we are, but it's the next step for us to progress to better human society. Isn't that what every species living in the wild strives for?

The closest i've come to see a human ( in his natural envirnment ) and no i don't mean a tribe in Africa, when i say natural state, i mean mentally, because all of this is a war on the mind....is to watch very closely, someone who is in the middle of fasting....after a certain time, their instincts kick in because the mind and body thinks it's in danger... remove shelter,food or safety from the average human, and you'll get a little glimpse of the very creature who murdered his way to the top with a razor sharp intellect, an even sharper killer instinct casted in an almost unbreakable no mercy attitude...
Interesting, but I don't see how it's related. It seems like you're trying to imply anarchist messages what with talking about underlying survivalist instincts and human beings in perspective of the wild animal kingdom. We've transcended natural selection, but improving ourselves as a species is not below us. That's what revolutions and government reforms, hell, even wars are all about.

This is why we have Uni's, schools, colleges and all that. It's not to educate you.... it's to refine you... it's to shake off your self awareness and pigeon hole you.it's to blunt your edge and reduce your point... Really think those who over look the uni's of the world give a **** about gay rights or anyother ? not really, they just want you to pick a mask so they know where you are on the chess board.
I'll let Femme Fatale handle this one. She hasn't said anything but I have a sneaking suspicion that the two of us are on the same page.

I used the phrase sheep dog in it's fullest at the start of this stupidly long rant, because that is what this is... Man will not waken from this slumber, he will not turn out the lights, because he simply doesn't trust himself, others or that which crawls in the dark.

For an illustration, go watch the wizard of oz, and keep your eyes fixed on the cowardly lion, he is modern man...being a lion isn't enough, you need to know you are.
Being lazy and being cowardly are two different things entirely. The economic recession today doesn't have the same effects on day-to-day life it did in the Great Depression. Not everyone feels it's severe enough to leave their jobs and go protest. People aren't cowardly, they're apathetic.

Listen, i want change just as much, but you have to be very very careful for what you wish for....revolution, always brings pain, true revolution that is.. not soap dodgers in tents.
Revolution only represents the interests of revolutionaries, not necessarily the people they hope to rule. In some cases (Lenin), the majority are thankful. In other cases (Castro) it does more damage than it's worth. Given the state of today, I don't think that anywhere near the majority of people would be happy with a revolution.

We, and our loved ones before us, have paid into this very system we are in, they've even died for it or indeed been killed by it... we work, pay our taxes and try to live good lives and do right by others even if we're no good at it. So we need to be really honest with ourselves, and ask why now ? and change it to what ? are you even ready ? do you even know what's going on ? would the new system even ignite with the monsters still lurking in the halls ?
There is no new system and there won't be one. Uprooting a government makes everything go back to zero and in most cases is more trouble than it's worth. The current system is good - fantastic even. It's the politicians, therefore, the process of election to public office that needs to be reexamined, which is entirely doable.

Your rant sounds eerily like someone who's upset with the world but doesn't want to back your views with real world examples. It was 100% generalization and therefore 0% tangible.

You say universities are used to refine citizens into robots.
I say it's a place to learn a highly skilled trade and survive in our own created nature.
You say tomato.
I say tomoto.

See my point?

Without backing your views with some examples, you're just describing the general way the world works like a pessimistic novelist. Show examples and stop generalizing unless you want counter-examples up the arse from douchebags like me.

EDIT: I'm currently in my 4th year at University for Journalism but due to some complications I'm a sophomore. I'll be a junior after this quarter.
 
^ I think we need a love button.

Anyway, I felt the statements I quoted above were just really, really wrong.You do not know how lucky we are to live in a country that offers (somewhat, depending on where you are) affordable education to its citizens. It’s a privilege that SO many people don’t have but wish to their God that they could, and unless you’re a have-not (which neither of you are) you can never understand what it is to go without. I have a friend whose family is from Palestine and we’ve had a similar discussion. One thing he told me that it is incredibly, incredibly difficult for anyone to break out of the poverty cycle if they haven’t received an education. So many people don't know how to feed their kids, precisely because they aren't offered those incredible opportunities that we take for granted here. That speaks for itself, I think.

The purpose of schools is not to brainwash you. Just the opposite, actually. Schools are an institution which teach you the necessary skills and knowledge needed to first of all, better your own self and secondly, to help you succeed in the society you’ll be entering after graduation. For instance, why do you think schools start at 8:30? Is it because they like to torture us as kids and teens? No, it’s because that’s the time when most people go to work. That’s what it is preparing us for. Maybe you guys see that as brainwashing, I don't know. I also disagree that schools keep us from forming bonds with our parents and learning from them. Kids need to be able to socialize with other people their own age. Networking and team work is so important, especially when you leave school and if you don’t know how to interact with people who aren’t related to you, then you’re going to have a bloody hard time adjusting. And besides, isn’t shiftwork and over-working – and hell, television or the computer more to blame for kids not spending ample amounts of time with their parents?

I have spent the past five years studying political science, labour studies, and communication studies at a Canadian university and one thing I can say to defend these institutions is that I am so much less gullible and naive than I was prior to being a university student. It’s given me the confidence and the knowledge to critically analyze and challenge positions I perceive to be wrong. Like I said, I don’t know how much time you have spent at university, but I have learned to rip everything apart and assume nothing. It’s not an institution that just praises the government and teaches us everything we need to be mindless drones. My university has taught me how to rip the government to pieces, rip all the political parties, all religions, everything down to its very barest of bones and then to make a decision from there. That’s something I never did before being a student and it’s a strength, not a weakness.

Listen, here’s the thing, **** all over education as much as you’d like. But at the end of the day, without education we’d all be living in the middle ages where clergymen were the only people who could read and write and they’d tell us we could buy our way into heaven and we’d mindlessly try to because 'they said so'. I have no interest in that society.
 
The purpose of schools is not to brainwash you. Schools are an institution which teach you the necessary skills and knowledge needed to first of all, better your own self and secondly, to help you succeed in the society you’ll be entering after graduation.

Enslavement, much?
What makes you think I want to be in this society? We live in a society that glorifies, and idolizes murderers, immoral sex, war, and violence.
I'd preferably live in a society that thrives on Peace, Love, Justice and Understanding.
For instance, why do you think school’s start at 8:30? It’s because that’s the time when people go to work. That’s what it is preparing us for.

They *prepare* us. Why do we need preparing? It doesn't take preperation to get out of bed.
By the way, I took the liberty of taking out what isn't relevant to our discussion, if thats alright..

Maybe you guys see that as brainwashing, I don't know.
I also disagree that schools keep us from forming bonds with our parents and learning from them.
All those countless hours wasted at school, learning **** all and falling asleep. Yeah, imagine we were able to use that time the way *WE* wanted, you and I, listening to our own parents and learning from their experiences, over some "expert".

We never got a choice. "Choice" in our society is an illusion. It's always been "Do this our way or **** off, outlaw".
Kids need to be able to socialize with other people their own age.

I remember my family introducing me to cousins, reletives and their friends - and me developing friendships with them when I was young. That is how I learned to socialize. This was probably around the time I began my first years of primary school.

Therefor, affectively learning how to associate with other people before getting stuck into school.
Networking and team work is so important, especially when you leave school and if you don’t know how to interact with people who aren’t related to you, then you’re going to have a bloody hard time adjusting. And besides, isn’t shiftwork and over-working – and hell, television or the computer more to blame for kids not spending ample amounts of time with their parents?
These days, you're right there. All sorts of Media has become a reason for as to why kids don't spend much time bonding with their families. Alot of people are more interested in technology than they once were. To some extent, it's become a necessity.

That, and they fact that some parents just don't care for their kids.
I have spent the past five years studying political science, labour studies, and communication studies at a Canadian university and one thing I can say to defend these institutions is that I am so much less gullible and naive than I was prior to being a university student. It’s given me the confidence and the knowledge to critically analyze and challenge things I perceive to be wrong. Like I said, I don’t know how much time you have spent at university, but I have learned to rip everything apart and assume nothing. I’m sorry, but no, it’s not an institution that just praises the government and teaches us everything we need to be mindless drones. My university has taught me how to rip the government, rip all the political parties, all religions, everything down to its very barest of bones and then to make a decision from there. That’s something I never did before being a student and it’s a strength, not a weakness.

Congradulations. You seem to have benefitted from school. I, on the other hand, didn't. But good for you. ^ _ ^

Listen, here’s the thing, **** all over education as much as you’d like. But at the end of the day, without education we’d all be living in the middle ages where highly corrupted clergy were the only people who could read and write and they’d tell us to buy indulgences for ten bucks a piece and we’d mindlessly do so because that’s the only way we were told we could get into heaven. I have no interest in living in that society.
You've been living in that society you're whole life. Again, it comes down to an illusion.

The Pope/Vatican - takes the place of the "highly corrupted clergy".
And you don't need to be told to "mindlessly buy indulgences", because you do so at your own free will. What about Iphones? Ipods? Computers? Wide-Screen Televisions? Books? CD's? Food - Which some indulge in, ect.
Feel like buying loads of new clothes you'll never wear? Go right ahead! /sarcasm.

By the way, if I've been a little too harsh in some of my replies, I apologize... I'm sorry.

I'd prefer to see you, and keep you as a friend. Not an enemy.
 
Enslavement, much?
What makes you think I want to be in this society? We live in a society that glorifies, and idolizes murderers, immoral sex, war, and violence.
I'd preferably live in a society that thrives on Peace, Love, Justice and Understanding.
Please, don't call school enslavement. Equating school and enslavement is just plain offensive and it's just... don't do it.

And who doesn't want to live in a society that thrives on peace, love, justice, and understanding? Does such a society actually exist? Who knows? Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. And nothing 'made me think you want to be in this society'. You are, and thus you deal with it. There's no magical time travel machine that'll take you back to the horse and buggy. You make the most of what you have right now.
They *prepare* us. Why do we need preparing? It doesn't take preperation to get out of bed.
By the way, I took the liberty of taking out what isn't relevant to our discussion, if thats alright..
It's called discipline. And yes, many people need to learn it 'cause not a whole lot of people have it on their own.
All those countless hours wasted at school, learning **** all and falling asleep. Yeah, imagine we were able to use that time the way *WE* wanted, you and I, listening to our own parents and learning from their experiences, over some "expert".
We never got a choice. "Choice" in our society is an illusion. It's always been "Do this our way or **** off, outlaw".
Lol, okay. How do you use time when you're not in school, though? Especially when you were young? Would you spend every second in front of your parents? Or would you be playing video games? I know if I was allowed to stay home as a kid I would spend my time watching Sailor Moon. Not many kids have a natural intellectual curiosity - not many kids are going to take the initiative to learn about things themselves.

I never fell asleep in class, but I was always a bit of a eager student anyway. Why can't you still listen and learn from your parents and go to school at the same time? Why does it have to be one or the other? Can't you grow with both sets of influences?
The Pope/Vatican - takes the place of the "highly corrupted clergy".
And you don't need to be told to "mindlessly buy indulgences", because you do so at your own free will. What about Iphones? Ipods? Computers? Wide-Screen Televisions? Books? CD's? Food - Which some indulge in, ect.
Feel like buying loads of new clothes you'll never wear? Go right ahead! /sarcasm.
I think you missed my point. My point was you couldn't make educated decisions because you weren't educated and you weren't educated because you had no access to it.

Listen, I was not trying to alienate anyone with my previous post. I haven't changed how I feel about either of you and I don't view either of you as an enemy, I don't even know why that was suggested. When people complain about having to go to school and liken it to enslavement... it's just, it makes you come across a certain way (a way in which I'm not going to elaborate on because I don't want to offend you), but it's not... good.
 
I know what enslavement is. Maybe not literal enslavement, but enslavement as in addiction. Addiction can be seen as another form of enslavement.

Other than that I can't be bothered anymore. Keep living the illusion if thats how you deal with life.

And please elaborate. Show your true colors. You're already insulting my intelligence so how much worse could it get?
 
And school is on the same level as addiction?

Show my true colours... I wasn't aware my true colours were all that reprehensible but whatever. I'm not insulting your intelligence. I've tried to be as sensitive as I can. I just simply don't buy your argument because I don't understand how one can possibly equate school and learning to enslavement and brainwashing. I can't connect those dots, I'm sorry. On another note, I think an appreciation of school is something that comes for most people in retrospect. I can't say I've spoken to a single adult (or rather, someone who is well established in their life and career) who has ever said to me 'I wish I never went to school'.
 
Enslavement, much?
What makes you think I want to be in this society? We live in a society that glorifies, and idolizes murderers, immoral sex, war, and violence.
I'd preferably live in a society that thrives on Peace, Love, Justice and Understanding.
Enslavement is work without pay, living conditions, or rights. It relies on a lack of education because an educated slave knows what's right and what's wrong. Slaves fought for the right to education. Most schools teach critical thinking which, if you really think about it, is the opposite of slavery. If you haven't (may very well have, I had to read it in high school) The Narrative of Frederick Douglas is a great little book that an ex-slave wrote after teaching himself to read or write. Short book, easy read, and quite honestly an AWESOME source of knowledge on the subject.

They *prepare* us. Why do we need preparing? It doesn't take preperation to get out of bed.
By the way, I took the liberty of taking out what isn't relevant to our discussion, if thats alright..

All those countless hours wasted at school, learning **** all and falling asleep. Yeah, imagine we were able to use that time the way *WE* wanted, you and I, listening to our own parents and learning from their experiences, over some "expert".
Most jobs you would look to take you wouldn't be able to do without a higher education, be it through knowledge or skill. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to get medical treatment from someone with a wikipedia education. Chemistry, physics, mathematics, and psychology professions? Absolutely. Even in Journalism (my major) you'd think it's something easy that anyone could do, right? Just need to have good grammar, right? Wrong. Even in a field like mine, they're highly critical of style and organizing even a 200 word story. I'm a half-decent writer, and I still get my assignments back covered in ink with C's and B's regardless of how perfect it looked to me. Without the training the university offers under professionals, this line of work would wipe the floor with me even now (only about half way through my core courses, but still =( ).

If you want to graduate and have a useless degree, there's always sports management. :cool:

We never got a choice. "Choice" in our society is an illusion. It's always been "Do this our way or **** off, outlaw".
Alright, now we're talking about high school/college (depending which side of the pond you're from) which is different, but it still applies. High school is built on the fact that you probably don't care enough to remember any of what you learn, even if it's being taught at a relatively basic level. The ultimate goal of high school is to teach critical thinking. The ability to watch a political speech and be able to tell the difference between what they know for sure and the bull**** that sounds right. If more people walked away from that education with what they're supposed to then maybe, maybe, the average citizen wouldn't be a simple-minded dimwit. That's directed at people in general, because some of the reasons I've heard for why someone is in the X or Y political party...man, don't even want to get into it. The **** some people say. lmao

I remember my family introducing me to cousins, reletives and their friends - and me developing friendships with them when I was young. That is how I learned to socialize. This was probably around the time I began my first years of primary school.
Therefore, effectively learning how to associate with other people before getting stuck into school.

These days, you're right there. All sorts of Media has become a reason for as to why kids don't spend much time bonding with their families. Alot of people are more interested in technology than they once were. To some extent, it's become a necessity.

That, and they fact that some parents just don't care for their kids.
Depends on the family. The right upbringing leaves plenty of interaction between family members. I like to think that the families that would rather stare at their own screens than talk to one another would just find another excuse to be anti-social if we didn't have technology.

True, shutting yourself in your room and playing video games and spending all your time on the computer isn't good for your social skills, but plenty of people find the right balance so that it doesn't affect them. I spent entirely too much time on both in high school, but at some point you wake up and realize that you don't want all of your human interaction to come from Skype or an XBOX microphone. As for your family, they should always be there for you no matter how socially awkward you get (mine was).

Congradulations. You seem to have benefitted from school. I, on the other hand, didn't. But good for you. ^ _ ^
School is what you take from it. When it's required it's easier to walk away with learning as little as possible. The hope is you don't, but many do. University on the other hand, you pay to be there. It's not required, so you're challenged to quite literally put your money where your mouth is. Yes, it's perfectly possible to be successful without higher education but statistics are not on your side. I worked for an entrepreneur who never went to college and he really didn't know how to do anything else. He talked someone successful into teaching him the trade and got by that way. Guess what? Once he hired me and saw that I'd paid attention, even if only a little, in school he couldn't find enough uses for me. Before you know it I was proofreading every email he sent for grammar and spelling, managing a website for him, and trying to explain things he didn't care to understand 14 years ago when he was in high school. He does not think it's a waste despite his success, and he's making damn sure that both his kids don't stop when they get their diplomas. The lesson here is that even if you don't put your education to use, it's helpful even in just understanding the world.

You've been living in that society you're whole life. Again, it comes down to an illusion.
The Pope/Vatican - takes the place of the "highly corrupted clergy".
And you don't need to be told to "mindlessly buy indulgences", because you do so at your own free will. What about Iphones? Ipods? Computers? Wide-Screen Televisions? Books? CD's? Food - Which some indulge in, ect.
Feel like buying loads of new clothes you'll never wear? Go right ahead! /sarcasm.

By the way, if I've been a little too harsh in some of my replies, I apologize... I'm sorry.

I'd prefer to see you, and keep you as a friend. Not an enemy.
Not directed at me, I know, but it feels nice to read it all the same. :)

The catholic church is pretty easy to point fingers at. It's a slippery slope in any discussion, really. iPods and computers have reached a point where they aren't JUST beneficial to you personally. Yes, they're a nice commodity, but they help businesses run more efficiently. Can't afford a phone line for your credit card reader? There's an app for that (really, there is). The need for food is still there. After all, we're alive and we need to eat. It's manufactured in a way where there's lots of it for all the hungry mouths and it is still (in most cases) affordable. Nothing's stopping you from buying an orchard and some livestock if you don't like that, you have the freedom in our society to do that. You could always choose to buy organic but let's face it: that ****'s expensive.

I know what enslavement is. Maybe not literal enslavement, but enslavement as in addiction. Addiction can be seen as another form of enslavement.
Yes, it could I suppose given that it's an addiction in the sense of chemical dependency. I don't see how school would qualify as an addiction, though. Well... I did get exposed to the world of drugs in high school if that counts. lol

On a more serious note: everyone hates homework and boring lectures, it takes real effort to stick with it and you have to try because you're there for a reason. You're paying to be there and nobody is going to force you to take it seriously. On a high school level maybe not so much, but paying even a little attention in those days benefits you in the long run.

Sorry if you read my posts as insulting as well. Through my studies my written word has gotten more 'to the point' out of habit.
So in the interest of everyone getting along despite talking seriously: if something rubs you the wrong way I apologize.
 
Back
Top Bottom