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Revelations 2 Revelations 2 2nd Trailer feat. Barry Burton

It had atrocious voice acting in the 90's when voices in games was a newer thing. Nowadays atrocious voice acting WOULD make or break a game. However, if the voice actor is different but still a good ACTOR, then it doesn't matter.

No... Bad voice acting doesn't affect whether or not a game is fun or plays well. Whether it's today or 20 years ago, no one is not going to play or score a game that excels in most other aspects low because of terrible voice acting. To say a game is broken or not good because of bad voice acting is just plain stupid.
 
No... Bad voice acting doesn't affect whether or not a game is fun or plays well. Whether it's today or 20 years ago, no one is not going to play or score a game that excels in most other aspects low because of terrible voice acting. To say a game is broken or not good because of bad voice acting is just plain stupid.
...You're crazy...If I'm playing a modern day AAA game, but the main character talks like William ****ner, then that is a BIGASS problem. That f*cks with the emersion factor, and critics and gamers alike WILL pan a game if the voice acting is bad enough.
 
...You're crazy...If I'm playing a modern day AAA game, but the main character talks like William ****ner, then that is a BIGASS problem. That f*cks with the emersion factor, and critics and gamers alike WILL pan a game if the voice acting is bad enough.

7.8/10- Too much voice acting

(I am quite aware that bad meme reference is bad)
 
...You're crazy...If I'm playing a modern day AAA game, but the main character talks like William ****ner, then that is a BIGASS problem. That f*cks with the emersion factor, and critics and gamers alike WILL pan a game if the voice acting is bad enough.

Yeah, I totally remember the first Revelations being deemed "broken," "unplayable," and "not worth the purchase" because of Jill's robotic voice acting, Quint's ridiculous f*ckin' voice, and every piece of cheesy voice work in that game. Yeah, what a "big ass" problem that was. Stop trying to make voice work more than it is. It's not a game making or breaking feature. It does nothing more than knock off a couple points if it's terrible but doesn't define a video game as a whole. You're essentially defending the point of view that a video game with broken gameplay, terrible graphics, and ****ty story can still be redeemed if it had top notch voice work.
 
why would you play a game for someones voice......... You people are stupid!!! If anything its for gameplay/story/graphics!!! Replayability is a huge thing with me also
 
Yeah, I totally remember the first Revelations being deemed "broken," "unplayable," and "not worth the purchase" because of Jill's robotic voice acting, Quint's ridiculous f*ckin' voice, and every piece of cheesy voice work in that game. Yeah, what a "big ass" problem that was. Stop trying to make voice work more than it is. It's not a game making or breaking feature. It does nothing more than knock off a couple points if it's terrible but doesn't define a video game as a whole. You're essentially defending the point of view that a video game with broken gameplay, terrible graphics, and ****ty story can still be redeemed if it had top notch voice work.
You know full well that I'm not talking about the 7 out of 10 voice acting jobs of the first revelations. I'm talking about if you took a AAA game like Grand Theft Auto V, and gave it the RE1 voice acting, there would be problems. You CANNOT deny that. After someone played Grand Theft Auto IV, then moved on to V and saw SUCH a downgrade, then you can bet your ass there would be problems. Is this scenario PROBABLE, hell no, but is this type of scenario what I was talking about from the very beginning, yes...Yes it was...There is a reason that Anime and Video game voice actors get paid over $40,000 a year to just talk into a microphone. All things in a modern day video game have to be in sync. Graphics, Gameplay, Story, all of it. Why should voice acting take a backseat when people are being PAID to do a job, that job should be done in a manner acceptable to put the game out to the general market. Bad voice acting means it's a bad product. People were paid to perform a service, and the customer doesn't end up enjoying the product to its fullest extent because someone else f*cked up their job. So yes, it is a big deal.
 
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You know full well that I'm not talking about the 7 out of 10 voice acting jobs of the first revelations. I'm talking about if you took a AAA game like Grand Theft Auto V, and gave it the RE1 voice acting, there would be problems. You CANNOT deny that. After someone played Grand Theft Auto IV, then moved on to V and saw SUCH a downgrade, then you can bet your ass there would be problems. Is this scenario PROBABLE, hell no, but is this type of scenario what I was talking about from the very beginning, yes...Yes it was...There is a reason that Anime and Video game voice actors get paid over $40,000 a year to just talk into a microphone. All things in a modern day video game have to be in sync. Graphics, Gameplay, Story, all of it. Why should voice acting take a backseat when people are being PAID to do a job, that job should be done in a manner acceptable to put the game out to the general market. Bad voice acting means it's a bad product. People were paid to perform a service, and the customer doesn't end up enjoying the product to its fullest extent because someone else f*cked up their job. So yes, it is a big deal.

First off, Grand Theft Auto games are far from top notch voice work and second, no one is denying it's problematic. Yes, it hurts the product but it doesn't break it. Rating a game based solely on voice acting is the stupidest f*cken thing I've ever heard. If GTA V had Resident Evil quality voice acting, it would be nothing more than one little flaw compared to everything else the game does well and offers. Only a dip**** would dismiss an entire product, especially one of GTA V's caliber because of ****ty voice acting. Also, lol that you'd even mention anime as a source of quality voice acting... And thanks for missing the point entirely.
 
First off, Grand Theft Auto games are far from top notch voice work and second, no one is denying it's problematic. Yes, it hurts the product but it doesn't break it. Rating a game based solely on voice acting is the stupidest f*cken thing I've ever heard. If GTA V had Resident Evil quality voice acting, it would be nothing more than one little flaw compared to everything else the game does well and offers. Only a dip**** would dismiss an entire product, especially one of GTA V's caliber because of ****ty voice acting. Also, lol that you'd even mention anime as a source of quality voice acting... And thanks for missing the point entirely.
I never said I rate a game SOLELY on Voice Acting, you assume too much. YOU are the one missing the point entirely, which is that people are paid to do a damned job, and when that job is not accomplished, everyone suffers. Also, the reason I even MENTIONED anime is because you will not find a SINGLE anime voice actor, that doesn't also do video game work. Get your head out of your @$$. And yes, if everything on GTA V is 10 out of 10, but Voice Acting for the entirety of a game is 2/10 at BEST, then that is a game breaking issue because it breaks the games emersion factor. In games like GTA where you have not ONLY cinematic cutscenes, but you run around on the streets in an open world and hear EVERYONE talk, then bad voice acting WILL hurt that damned game, no matter how much you want to deny it. Just because it doesn't affect how a game physically plays, does not in ANY way mean that it doesn't affect the enjoyability of a game. And in this day and age where gamers demand SO much, they WILL notice and b*tch about this product, and sell it back to Gamestop to buy more of the CoD bullsh*t.
 
*People complaining about Barry looking different in 3... 2... 1...*

Rely On Horror reveals even more news, including the identity of that little girl at the end and... oh well, just click the link, it's all there:

Neeews!

Barry will be in his fifties now, and has a grown up daughter. If they didn't make him look older then that would be stupid. He looks totally cool anyway with his beard and gun. I'm liking it....I'm feeling it.
 
I never said I rate a game SOLELY on Voice Acting, you assume too much. YOU are the one missing the point entirely, which is that people are paid to do a damned job, and when that job is not accomplished, everyone suffers. Also, the reason I even MENTIONED anime is because you will not find a SINGLE anime voice actor, that doesn't also do video game work. Get your head out of your @$$. And yes, if everything on GTA V is 10 out of 10, but Voice Acting for the entirety of a game is 2/10 at BEST, then that is a game breaking issue because it breaks the games emersion factor. In games like GTA where you have not ONLY cinematic cutscenes, but you run around on the streets in an open world and hear EVERYONE talk, then bad voice acting WILL hurt that damned game, no matter how much you want to deny it. Just because it doesn't affect how a game physically plays, does not in ANY way mean that it doesn't affect the enjoyability of a game. And in this day and age where gamers demand SO much, they WILL notice and b*tch about this product, and sell it back to Gamestop to buy more of the CoD bullsh*t.

I'm not assuming a damn thing. You've missed the entirety of the point and then go on to say dumb things like "voice acting can make or break a game." You obviously don't know anything about video games if you don't understand what a broken game is. Voice acting is only a fraction of a video game's sound so for you to say it makes up 1/5th of a game is just you talking out your ass. It's even laughable that you'd tell me to get my head out of my ass when yours went so far up your own that you randomly mentioned voice actors, their wages, and anime (because of course, voice actors do both video games and anime so it's somehow relevant to mention) like if it somehow makes your case better. Literally everything that goes into a game makes the game immersive. If you seriously believe that every game that was ever worth playing was an immersive experience, then please, don't even bother responding. And once again, I never denied that it doesn't hurt the product. How about you read over what I said again...
 
I'm not assuming a damn thing. You've missed the entirety of the point and then go on to say dumb things like "voice acting can make or break a game." You obviously don't know anything about video games if you don't understand what a broken game is. Voice acting is only a fraction of a video game's sound so for you to say it makes up 1/5th of a game is just you talking out your ass. It's even laughable that you'd tell me to get my head out of my ass when yours went so far up your own that you randomly mentioned voice actors, their wages, and anime (because of course, voice actors do both video games and anime so it's somehow relevant to mention) like if it somehow makes your case better. Literally everything that goes into a game makes the game immersive. If you seriously believe that every game that was ever worth playing was an immersive experience, then please, don't even bother responding. And once again, I never denied that it doesn't hurt the product. How about you read over what I said again...
You did assume a damn thing. You assumed I said or meant that I rate a game "based solely on voice acting." I know plenty about video games. I know that I play them and I enjoy them. I know what it takes for me personally to find a game enjoyable. As someone who competed in Speech and Debate tournaments, which are basically Voice Acting competitions, I know that if you take Voice Acting from RE1, and put it in GTA V, people will throw a DAMN fit. And never said that it made up 1/5 of a game. I was just trying to show that there are several aspects to making a game, and comparing that one aspect with several others. You, of course, couldn't realize that...And yes, it is relevant that I bring up anime alongside video games, as a way to show that this argument extends to more subjects than JUST video gaming. Bad voice acting not only could break games, but break other forms of media as well, such as anime was basically what I was getting at. Didn't think I'd have to spell it out for you. And yes, everything that goes into a game makes a game emersive. You're right. So if ONE aspect is just total and complete garbage, then it WILL stick out like a sore thumb, and ruin the experience as a whole.
 
You did assume a damn thing. You assumed I said or meant that I rate a game "based solely on voice acting." I know plenty about video games. I know that I play them and I enjoy them. I know what it takes for me personally to find a game enjoyable. As someone who competed in Speech and Debate tournaments, which are basically Voice Acting competitions, I know that if you take Voice Acting from RE1, and put it in GTA V, people will throw a DAMN fit. And never said that it made up 1/5 of a game. I was just trying to show that there are several aspects to making a game, and comparing that one aspect with several others. You, of course, couldn't realize that...And yes, it is relevant that I bring up anime alongside video games, as a way to show that this argument extends to more subjects than JUST video gaming. Bad voice acting not only could break games, but break other forms of media as well, such as anime was basically what I was getting at. Didn't think I'd have to spell it out for you. And yes, everything that goes into a game makes a game emersive. You're right. So if ONE aspect is just total and complete garbage, then it WILL stick out like a sore thumb, and ruin the experience as a whole.

I wasn't referring to you. Just like I said, you missed the entire point... Also, your life experiences are meaningless to me. You have a habit of inserting your life stories into debates like if it somehow makes you more knowledgeable on the subject and honestly, it doesn't. Especially when you call a speech and debate tournament, voice acting. You're not a voice actor and even if you were, there's no correlation between voicing a damn character and people throwing a fit over bad voice acting. You don't have to be in some lame tournament to know that.

Just stop with the bullsh*tting already. You credited voice over work as a 5th of a game. You don't get points for saying that that was you trying to compare it with other aspects because you weren't or that anything extends beyond video games. It's all common sense garbage that in no way furthers your point. Bravo, different forms of entertainment have things in common. I'm glad you cleared that up for me. So how does this tie into anything? Because last I checked, anime has a f*ck ton of sh*tty voice work. I don't see Dragon Ball fans throwing a fit...

Anyway, this is getting boring. You're just saying the same things or regurgitating my points back at me and hoping that every time you do, a valid point will form. I already know that the color blue in a field of red stands out, but go ahead and believe what you want. You obviously have no clue what a broken game is. Might as well be arguing that bad graphics break a game because to you, any one thing that isn't directly tied to how a game functions affects the core of an experience more than actually being able to play it. Go ahead, tell me more about immersion and how one flaw renders the game unplayable/broken.
 
Barry will be in his fifties now, and has a grown up daughter. If they didn't make him look older then that would be stupid. He looks totally cool anyway with his beard and gun. I'm liking it....I'm feeling it.

You don't have to tell me that, I'm not one of those "fans" who constantly complain about everything, including the characters aging with time. But look around on the internet, you'll find plenty of people who were looking forward to seeing Claire and Barry again... until they saw what they look like now.

Here we don't have many of those, fortunately. Here we only have a couple of guys and girls who just keep ignoring the PM function and continue fighting their never-ending personal wars in public.
 
You don't have to tell me that, I'm not one of those "fans" who constantly complain about everything, including the characters aging with time. But look around on the internet, you'll find plenty of people who were looking forward to seeing Claire and Barry again... until they saw what they look like now.

Here we don't have many of those, fortunately. Here we only have a couple of guys and girls who just keep ignoring the PM function and continue fighting their never-ending personal wars in public.
We aren't fighting. We'are debating. He and I have a lot of fun doing so. It's nothing personal, and we do it all the time because we enjoy it. The reason a forum is what it is, is for the discussion. Other people are MORE than welcome to jump in and debate alongside us. Don't act all high and mighty just because you don't want to partake in this particular discussion. If you notice, sometimes we agree, sometimes we don't. At the end of the day, it's all in good fun. Sometimes I wish others enjoyed a good, spirited debate like we do. It keeps things lively here...It gets boring to check back here once a day, and see that topics haven't been furthered at ALL because everyone agrees on every little thing, or the ones that don't agree don't speak up on WHY they don't agree. What's the point in a forum if people aren't going to discuss. Besides, if you can't see by now that Turo and I do this in good fun, then the point is lost. If he and I actually hated each other, there is this cool little thing called the "Ignore" button. Frankly, I would like to THANK @Turo602 for keeping this thread entertaining.
 
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Yeah, this place would be boring if it weren't for KK. We disagree on a lot of things but at least we can "talk" about it rather than be quiet or afraid of conflict like some people on this forum. Debating is just one of the many joys of the internet, especially since this place is pretty dead sometimes...
 
*sigh* I'll keep it short because I have a feeling that whatever I might say will just be misunderstood or turned around, and in the end I'll be diagnosed with some mental disease like you kept throwing them around in the Wesker thread. If I remember correctly, said thread was also closed by a moderator, and it wasn't the first one you derailed with your methods of "entertainment" that eventually suffered that same fate, so even if you think of me as a haughty party pooper, consider that I might have a point. I have nothing against either of you personally, just against your habit of turning every decent thread into another one of your "You don't know what you're talking about"-"No, YOU don't know what you're talking about" arguments that usually have little to do with the original topic (just like in this case) and end with the two of you teaming up against whoever else joins the so-called "discussion". But I'm not keen on being the one this time, and I'm neither a staff member nor will I report you to one, so feel to continue arguing as long as that doesn't mean others can't talk about the original topic anymore. Because there is indeed something I'd like to ask about the trailer as soon as this matter has died down.
 
*sigh* I'll keep it short because I have a feeling that whatever I might say will just be misunderstood or turned around, and in the end I'll be diagnosed with some mental disease like you kept throwing them around in the Wesker thread. If I remember correctly, said thread was also closed by a moderator, and it wasn't the first one you derailed with your methods of "entertainment" that eventually suffered that same fate, so even if you think of me as a haughty party pooper, consider that I might have a point. I have nothing against either of you personally, just against your habit of turning every decent thread into another one of your "You don't know what you're talking about"-"No, YOU don't know what you're talking about" arguments that usually have little to do with the original topic (just like in this case) and end with the two of you teaming up against whoever else joins the so-called "discussion". But I'm not keen on being the one this time, and I'm neither a staff member nor will I report you to one, so feel to continue arguing as long as that doesn't mean others can't talk about the original topic anymore. Because there is indeed something I'd like to ask about the trailer as soon as this matter has died down.

It's none of our faults that you want to see our arguments so one dimensionally. Anyone is free to join in or continue the topic. It's not going anywhere just because two people are posting back and forth and keeping an otherwise dead thread going with a topic that stems from the topic itself. This is a forum, debates are nothing new to them and I don't see why we can't have them, especially when there's hardly any activity...
 
Sorry slightly off topic
But everyone in the mansion incident seems to have been recruited into the BSAA. Does that mean Rebecca joined too?
Slightly on topic, Barrys looking cool.
 
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