Revelations 2 RE Revelations 2 (spoilers)

[RepresentativeDamage]

I made it to the final chapter of this game, and wow, I just quit. It's hard to put my finger on it, but I really don't like this game. The character are rather annoying, my favorite character ended up being the little girl Natalia.
Despite being next-gen, this game is incredibly dated graphically and mechanically. Not big on the story. Also found this game more than any other RE game to be utterly depressing, like in a beat it over your head sort of way. Resident Evil has always had some darkness, but I felt when I played RE2 remake, RE7, and RE Revelations 1, it was more in a blockbuster sort of way, and didn't make me feel hopeless. The journal entries—on top of the story—are some of the darkest sh*t I've ever read. Just really did not like this game.

Anyone else feel this way?

 

[Turo602]

This game isn't "next-gen." It's available on last-gen platforms and developed on an older engine with a smaller budget because it's a spin-off game. The game is hardly dated either. The N64 has dated graphics, Revelations 2 does not. And in what world are those mechanics dated either? It's more fleshed out than the RE2 REmake which is very simplistic by comparison.

 

[Jonipoon]

You're part of a minority then. Not that it makes your opinion less valid, just less common.

Personally I love this game. Revelations 2 is the core reason why I was pulled back into the world of Resident Evil after an almost two decade hiatus, but that's not the only reason why I find it so good. It's fun, addictive and straight to the point. It's full of fan service and callbacks (Jill sandwich lol), and many of the character interactions are quite funny albeit cheesy (as RE should be). The story is basically a mish-mash of things we've seen in previous games, but it just works. It was never intended to be anything more than a spin-off, but it ended up selling over expectations as well as getting a very strong fan following.

 

[Magnolia Grandiflora]

This game came out on the PS3... That's last gen.

 

[Hel]

Revelations 2 is my favourite RE, and I love how dark it is, both literally and metaphorically. Despite the occasional funny line or sandwich joke, it's in general one of the more serious titles, and that's one thing that always draws me back into another playthrough, even though I've already finished the campaign several times. Others may prefer more light-hearted stories, but that's okay, there is no right or wrong when it comes to personal taste.

 

[RepresentativeDamage]

This game came out on the PS3... That's last gen.

It was released in 2015, which was a few years into current-gen. It was released on PS3 and PS4, which is what I bought it for.

 

[RepresentativeDamage]

This game isn't "next-gen." It's available on last-gen platforms and developed on an older engine with a smaller budget because it's a spin-off game. The game is hardly dated either. The N64 has dated graphics, Revelations 2 does not. And in what world are those mechanics dated either? It's more fleshed out than the RE2 REmake which is very simplistic by comparison.

It's available for both generations, so if you're saying that makes it last-gen, it doesn't. Ask other people, you will find a lot of complaints about the graphics being dated and the mechanics clunky. The mechanics are dated in a world where characters haven't moved so robotically in years, like....early PS3 maybe. It's very arcadey. Maybe those are just the types of games you play. I play games where the mechanics are very fluid and animations vary a lot. But I'm not going to argue any further because clearly your opinion is different than mine.

 

[Jonipoon]

It's available for both generations, so if you're saying that makes it last-gen, it doesn't. Ask other people, you will find a lot of complaints about the graphics being dated and the mechanics clunky. The mechanics are dated in a world where characters haven't moved so robotically in years, like....early PS3 maybe. It's very arcadey. Maybe those are just the types of games you play. I play games where the mechanics are very fluid and animations vary a lot. But I'm not going to argue any further because clearly your opinion is different than mine.

It wasn't developed exclusively for next-gen, which is a huge difference. When developers are given the task to develop a game simultaneously for both last-gen and next-gen, it's almost always a 100% certainty that the next-gen version will suffer a bit from this. This is why you might feel the game plays like a PS3 game.

Besides, you talk about this game as if you were expecting it to be of AAA quality. It's a spin-off game, released in episodes, developed by a smaller team. It's not a main title in the series. Taken all of this into consideration, it's actually pretty amazing that the game turned out so good in terms of story, setting and atmosphere. It sold 2.3 million units, becoming the 24th best seller in Capcom's history. If the game is so bad as you say, a spin-off episodic game not intended for mass consumption, why the heck did it sell so well then?

 

[Turo602]

It's available for both generations, so if you're saying that makes it last-gen, it doesn't. Ask other people, you will find a lot of complaints about the graphics being dated and the mechanics clunky. The mechanics are dated in a world where characters haven't moved so robotically in years, like....early PS3 maybe. It's very arcadey. Maybe those are just the types of games you play. I play games where the mechanics are very fluid and animations vary a lot. But I'm not going to argue any further because clearly your opinion is different than mine.

I never stated it was a last gen game. It just isn't a "next-gen" game. It's a game with a small budget that was available for both current and last gen systems. It's not a true current gen experience. I don't need to ask other people. I've played the game. It holds up. Nothing about it is dated. Just sounds like a bunch of people who couldn't adapt to a survival horror playstyle as that seems to have always been the case with Resident Evil games. Even then, Revelations 2 plays no different than games like The Last of Us and The Evil Within. If those games are considered dated, then people are just very spoiled. I can't imagine letting modern games stop me from enjoying games that came out as little as 5 years ago. I really don't think it's a matter of opinion either. Clunky and outdated must mean two different things to us.

 

[Jonipoon]

^Yeah, one reason why I enjoyed Revelations 2 so much was basically because I had played the heck out of The Last of Us and The Evil Within.

 

[RepresentativeDamage]

It wasn't developed exclusively for next-gen, which is a huge difference. When developers are given the task to develop a game simultaneously for both last-gen and next-gen, it's almost always a 100% certainty that the next-gen version will suffer a bit from this. This is why you might feel the game plays like a PS3 game.

Besides, you talk about this game as if you were expecting it to be of AAA quality. It's a spin-off game, released in episodes, developed by a smaller team. It's not a main title in the series. Taken all of this into consideration, it's actually pretty amazing that the game turned out so good in terms of story, setting and atmosphere. It sold 2.3 million units, becoming the 24th best seller in Capcom's history. If the game is so bad as you say, a spin-off episodic game not intended for mass consumption, why the heck did it sell so well then?

Logical fallacy. A game selling well does not point to its quality. For example, many movies in history have made tons of money despite being critically panned.

 

[Jonipoon]

Logical fallacy. A game selling well does not point to its quality. For example, many movies in history have made tons of money despite being critically panned.

You can't really compare movies with video games. Going to the cinema is something most people do, and the majority of moviegoers still buy their movie tickets the same day as the viewing occurs. However, playing video games is not something that most people do, and buying a new video game for 60 bucks is not something you do without some prior consideration. Which brings us to the next point; the price of a movie ticket is a fraction of what a brand new video game would cost.

 

[RepresentativeDamage]

You can't really compare movies with video games. Going to the cinema is something most people do, and the majority of moviegoers still buy their movie tickets the same day as the viewing occurs. However, playing video games is not something that most people do, and buying a new video game for 60 bucks is not something you do without some prior consideration. Which brings us to the next point; the price of a movie ticket is a fraction of what a brand new video game would cost.

Point remains, your argument is a logical fallacy known as argumentum ad numeram, or appeal to popularity. Furthermore, RE2 is about $20, not too much more than a movie ticket. Not that it really matters though, since it's not a logical argument.

 

[Rain611]

I didn't like Revelations 2. The story was meh and co op was no fun as the characters were very mismatched as far as their contribution to the game play. I don't think it was clunky or outdated though.

 

[UniqTeas]

I really liked Revelations 2 and I am in the minority that find it better than the original Revelations.

Revelations 2 has unique and terrifying enemies. The Afflicted are all so gross to look at. And terrifying up close. The concept of seeing the game from two different angles (Claire EARLIER and THEN Barry) was super cool. Plus, using Claire and Barry was fun. Alex Wesker is a unique antagonist that was surprisingly full of depth considering I was worried she would be an Albert ripoff.

I do have one MAJOR gripe with the game.

Spoiler

Getting the bad ending is too easy to pull off. If you're good at gaming, you get the bad ending. There is no reason for you to know that you have to wait for Moira to shoot the Neil/Tyrant boss rather than just doing it as Claire. I got the bad ending for having quick reflexes. Which is BS! But I am not going to play the WHOLE game again just to have Moira survive... and fight the actual final boss.... and see the realllll ending. Boo!

 

[Rain611]

I really liked Revelations 2 and I am in the minority that find it better than the original Revelations.

Revelations 2 has unique and terrifying enemies. The Afflicted are all so gross to look at. And terrifying up close. The concept of seeing the game from two different angles (Claire EARLIER and THEN Barry) was super cool. Plus, using Claire and Barry was fun. Alex Wesker is a unique antagonist that was surprisingly full of depth considering I was worried she would be an Albert ripoff.

I do have one MAJOR gripe with the game.

Spoiler

Getting the bad ending is too easy to pull off. If you're good at gaming, you get the bad ending. There is no reason for you to know that you have to wait for Moira to shoot the Neil/Tyrant boss rather than just doing it as Claire. I got the bad ending for having quick reflexes. Which is BS! But I am not going to play the WHOLE game again just to have Moira survive... and fight the actual final boss.... and see the realllll ending. Boo!

This is one of the reasons I check the trophy list before I start the game anymore lol

 

[Turo602]

Point remains, your argument is a logical fallacy known as argumentum ad numeram, or appeal to popularity. Furthermore, RE2 is about $20, not too much more than a movie ticket. Not that it really matters though, since it's not a logical argument.

He's still not wrong though. You can't compare the two. Bad video games don't typically sell well whereas good movies don't sell as well as the average to below average blockbuster films. When a game has mass appeal, it's usually a good sign of quality.

 

[Jonipoon]

Point remains, your argument is a logical fallacy known as argumentum ad numeram, or appeal to popularity. Furthermore, RE2 is about $20, not too much more than a movie ticket. Not that it really matters though, since it's not a logical argument.

You don't need to bring up argumentation theory into this discussion, it only makes you look less interested in having an actual debate and more like a snob trying to use fancy terms to prove his point after running out of other arguments to make. What I said is still true to newly released games, please provide me with a link to any webstore where a brand new RE2 costs $20. The cheapest I can find is on the official PS4 store where it costs $59.99.
For sure, if you buy Revelations 2 these days you can get the full version for a very cheap price comparable to a movie ticket, but that's totally out of the point. Revelations 2 had its heyday back in 2015.

 

[RepresentativeDamage]

You don't need to bring up argumentation theory into this discussion, it only makes you look less interested in having an actual debate and more like a snob trying to use fancy terms to prove his point after running out of other arguments to make. What I said is still true to newly released games, please provide me with a link to any webstore where a brand new RE2 costs $20. The cheapest I can find is on the official PS4 store where it costs $59.99.
For sure, if you buy Revelations 2 these days you can get the full version for a very cheap price comparable to a movie ticket, but that's totally out of the point. Revelations 2 had its heyday back in 2015.

Name-calling, nice. Another fallacy I might add, ad hominem. I have made my point, you are just angry because I made my case and pointed out your lack of logic in your arguments, thereby making them not valid. If you insist on using fallacies in an argument that you insist on having, expect for someone to call you out on it. I am now done with this conversation.

 

[Turo602]

Name-calling, nice. Another fallacy I might add, ad hominem. I have made my point, you are just angry because I made my case and pointed out your lack of logic in your arguments, thereby making them not valid. If you insist on using fallacies in an argument that you insist on having, expect for someone to call you out on it. I am now done with this conversation.

LMAO! You said a bunch of bullsh*t and have yet to disprove the point. But run away, coward.