Resident Evil 6 Jill not mentioned in RE 6.. your thoughts?

[Summer]

It would be great (although I doubt that Capcom would think about something as complex) if that was a little hint at some kind of character development. Jill certainly isn't the same person anymore since what Wesker did to her (no one would be), and Chris has changed too. Maybe they just don't get along anymore, and some future game will be about them trying to re-establish their friendship while fighting zombies.

Judging by his obsession with finding her in RE 5, by the looks he gave her when she was rescued and by all the events they've gone through together your suggestion is highly doubtful. I dont't think that they have any problems in their friendship and I dont't think that Capcom thought that far.

I really start to believe that they are just not sure about Jill's role yet or they plan the next game with her in it and just want to keep her fans in suspense and increase the tension.

I figured they only mentioned Claire to link Sherry and Chris together

Agreed. I had the same impression as well.

 

[Hel]

While I agree that Capcom probably didn't think that far, I have to disagree on the other part. I'm not saying that it is the way I suggested, but that it can be.

After all, Chris and Jill are just humans (consisting of pixels and polygons rather than blood and flesh, but you get the idea), and human relationships are anything but stable. Even a fairytale-like marriage that has lasted for thirty years doesn't guarantee that it will last for another ten, as so many things could happen to break even the happiest relationship in just a year, no matter how much they've been through together. And there's four years between RE5 and RE6. If it wasn't Capcom we're talking about, I would take the fact that Jill has been omitted from anything concerning RE6 as a dead giveaway.

But then again, it is Capcom we're talking about, so it probably means nothing. My only hope is that Jill, when she returns, won't be exactly the same person as she was before, no matter what her relationship with Chris is. She was held captive, experimented on and mind-raped for three years; that must leave a mark of some sort. The time was never better for a bit of character development for Jill.

 

[Summer]

But then again, it is Capcom we're talking about, so it probably means nothing.

yeah exactly, I think that too. Chris and Jill having some problems or whatever in their friendship seems to far-fetched, some other people said that perhaps Jill is not a field-agent anymore, I think that's far-fetched too. Otherwise we could claim that Chris and Claire have problems as well because Claire wasn't mentioned in RE 5 at all and just very briefly in RE 6.

Capcom apparently wants to keep the tension.. probably they just need more time to think of a good story with Jill in it and that's not so easy after her last appearance. Just like you I am anxious to know what kind of person Jill has become or if she's the same, so hopefully we see her in RE 7.

 

[MetalGamer2]

I thought it was kinda weird, being that Chris is like obsessed with Jill, but meh... Capcom does this kinda thing a lot. I figured they only mentioned Claire to link Sherry and Chris together and to possibly add Claire DLC down the road.

Small correction, if you read all the documents Claire is mentioned a lot more, so referencing her was not for the sole purpose of linking Chris and Sherry. In a nutshell, the documents show that everyone knows everybody else because of Claire...

 

[Hel]

Exactly, and then Claire is just a civilian who has nothing to do with the BSAA or the mission Chris is on down in Africa, so there's no reason for her to show up or even be mentioned in RE5; that doesn't say anything about their relationship. It all depends on the context, and Jill's absence in RE6's context is much stranger than her absence in, say, Code Veronica, which is why we have this thread after all.

I think Claire wouldn't be mentioned in RE6 at all if there weren't so many people who are linked to her somehow. Chris is her brother, Leon helped her to escape Raccoon City, and Sherry is the little girl she saved meanwhile. She also heard of Ada in RE2, and her brother might have told her about Piers, which leaves Jake and Helena to be the only main characters she most certainly doesn't know. It would have been really lame to not at least mention her now and then under these circumstances, and Capcom realised that too.

 

[AtilaLopez]

While I don't mind her absence in the game, it is indeed strange.
The first thought that occurred to me when I first thought about this was that she's not a field operative anymore. She might have assumed an administrative position after what happened to her in Africa. That would explain her absence during the missions in Edonia and China, but not the fact that it isn't mentioned anywhere in the files.
Then I figured she might have died at some point between the events of RE5 and 6. It would explain her absence altogether, but once again, this should have been mentioned in one of the files, considering that even Sheva, a rather unimportant character in comparison, is mentioned.
My third guess: She has retired completely, is no longer a member of the BSAA, which puts her in a situation similar to Claire's. Even if she somehow figures out that Chris has gone missing, she doesn't have any hints or the means to track him down. While this solution doesn't seem very likely to me, it would explain her absence in Chris's campaign and her absence at the bar where Piers finds him and her not being mentioned in any of the files.

But my real conclusion is that there's no logical explanation at all. I think the developers were just unsure about Jill's future, so they decided to keep her out of RE6 completely so they couldn't say anything about her that they might regret later.
As for Piers, I don't see a problem. He was the one who found Chris in the end, but that doesn't mean he was the only one to look for him. Maybe Jill was part of another team searching a different place. Or she was the one to organise the search, but did not physically take part in it... whatever.

Well let's look at it this way Jill is a very independent person in a way. After the incident in RE1 she vowed to take down Umbrella and fight bio terrorism this leading her to go in her own direction like how we see in RE3 where she stays back in Raccoon City in RE3. Now after what happened in RE5 and everything she's been through at that point leads me to believe that after RE5 Jill left the BSAA and went off her own path for personal reasons or by other means, or simply for a break. Just think about it, it makes sense and Capcom will eventually have Jill in her own game taking place after RE6 being in some other part of the world who knows?
Maybe she can even meet up with Jake at some point?
RE7 perhaps???

 

[AgentZero]

Capcom just doesn`t give a crap anymore.

We haven`t heard from Claire, Jill, Barry, Rebecca, or Carlos in a long time, Leon and Chris have had the spotlight for a real long time.

 

[Mantis TabogganMD]

Capcom just doesn`t give a crap anymore.

We haven`t heard from Claire, Jill, Barry, Rebecca, or Carlos in a long time, Leon and Chris have had the spotlight for a real long time.

Jill was just in like three games prior to this one. RE5, Revelations, Operation Raccoon City(ugh), and hell even Mercs 3d, so that's four all together. While they definitely should have mentioned her in this, I don't really see how anyone can say we haven't heard from her in a while when she was just in the previous main installment in the series.

The rest I can agree with, Leon and Chris are everywhere and everyone else is on the back burner.

 

[AgentZero]

Jill was just in like three games prior to this one. RE5, Revelations, Operation Raccoon City(ugh), and hell even Mercs 3d, so that's four all together. While they definitely should have mentioned her in this, I don't really see how anyone can say we haven't heard from her in a while when she was just in the previous main installment in the series.

The rest I can agree with, Leon and Chris are everywhere and everyone else is on the back burner.

Jill was mentioned for a short time of RE5, it wasn't like she was the star. And she was in ORC for the DLC. I haven't played Revelations or the mercenaries, so I can't comment on those.

 

[Mantis TabogganMD]

Jill was mentioned for a short time of RE5, it wasn't like she was the star. And she was in ORC for the DLC. I haven't played Revelations or the mercenaries, so I can't comment on those.

Regardless, she was in RE5, even expanded upon with the two DLC Chapters. Star of it? No, but that wasn't my point. She was more than heard from and was a pretty big plot point for the game. As far as story goes, ORC and Mercs 3DS don't really count, but furthers my point that she's been around a lot recently. Annnd, I've never played Revelations either :/ Hopefully its ported soon!

 

[AgentZero]

Regardless, she was in RE5, even expanded upon with the two DLC Chapters. Star of it? No, but that wasn't my point. She was more than heard from and was a pretty big plot point for the game. As far as story goes, ORC and Mercs 3DS don't really count, but furthers my point that she's been around a lot recently. Annnd, I've never played Revelations either :/ Hopefully its ported soon!

Still, there's a lot more characters to be mentioned if Chris and Leon can quit being in every single game.

 

[013]

Summer, I thought about that too. I love Piers but having him find Chris instead of Jill after all they went through together is odd. The fact that she was in recent games is kinda irrelevant for an excuse to not give us the heads up on her character.

Yes she was in recent games, but they were all spin offs that were either non canon, *coughhalfasscough*, or took place before RE5. After What she went through in 5, it's only reasonable to want to know what happen to her AFTER that.

Somebody in this topic mentioned earlier that maybe Jill was just in another search team and Piers' team was the one that found him. That's a good theory. I have another one...

What if after the events of RE5 Jill had no choice but to be under the supervision of the government and taken into custody? She, like Sherry was infected with a virus but then cured leaving the virus still in her body and Sherry was locked up for 11 years. It has only been 3 years since RE5 and Jill was experimented on and injected like hell by Wesker and Excella. And if I remember correctly wasn't it the antibodies or something like that in Jill's body that was used to help make Uroboros? If so, her being force to be a genie pig like Sherry was isn't to far out of question in my opinion.

 

[MetalGamer2]

What if after the events of RE5 Jill had no choice but to be under the supervision of the government and taken into custody? She, like Sherry was infected with a virus but then cured leaving the virus still in her body and Sherry was locked up for 11 years. It has only been 3 years since RE5 and Jill was experimented on and injected like hell by Wesker and Excella. And if I remember correctly wasn't it the antibodies or something like that in Jill's body that was used to help make Uroboros? If so, her being force to be a genie pig like Sherry was isn't to far out of question in my opinion.

Wesker did do a lot of experimenting on her, but there's not much to suggest that it left anything permanent or residual. I think the culmination of his work was the mind-control device on her chest. But after that was removed and she was free from his experiments, there didn't seem to be anything that had a lasting effect on her (except the hair color and skin tone, those seem like they might be permanent).

 

[013]

Wesker did do a lot of experimenting on her, but there's not much to suggest that it left anything permanent or residual.

There is not much to suggest that it wasn't. Sherry seemed fine after Claire gave her the antidote but she still has the G-virus in her body.

 

[MetalGamer2]

There is not much to suggest that it wasn't. Sherry seemed fine after Claire gave her the antidote but she still has the G-virus in her body.

Yeah, that's true, but in the case of Sherry we didn't see her again until RE6. With Jill there was the Desperate Escape DLC, which showed her on her way to pickup Chris with the chopper. In that she seemed no different than her usual self. But then again, the changes might not have been physical or phenotypic in any way, so your idea is always possible.

 

[Jen]

Summer, I thought about that too. I love Piers but having him find Chris instead of Jill after all they went through together is odd. The fact that she was in recent games is kinda irrelevant for an excuse to not give us the heads up on her character.

Yes she was in recent games, but they were all spin offs that were either non canon, *coughhalfasscough*, or took place before RE5. After What she went through in 5, it's only reasonable to want to know what happen to her AFTER that.

Somebody in this topic mentioned earlier that maybe Jill was just in another search team and Piers' team was the one that found him. That's a good theory. I have another one...

What if after the events of RE5 Jill had no choice but to be under the supervision of the government and taken into custody? She, like Sherry was infected with a virus but then cured leaving the virus still in her body and Sherry was locked up for 11 years. It has only been 3 years since RE5 and Jill was experimented on and injected like hell by Wesker and Excella. And if I remember correctly wasn't it the antibodies or something like that in Jill's body that was used to help make Uroboros? If so, her being force to be a genie pig like Sherry was isn't to far out of question in my opinion.

I just see one problem with that. Do you think, after going to all that trouble to rescue her, that Chris would allow the government to lock Jill up and experiment on her like a guinea pig? Because I don't think he would.

 

[Nashtalia]

Judging by his obsession with finding her in RE 5, by the looks he gave her when she was rescued and by all the events they've gone through together your suggestion is highly doubtful. I dont't think that they have any problems in their friendship and I dont't think that Capcom thought that far.

I really start to believe that they are just not sure about Jill's role yet or they plan the next game with her in it and just want to keep her fans in suspense and increase the tension.

Agreed. I had the same impression as well.

take note on Chris's facial expression when Jill says to him "don't you trust your Partner?" (this got to me)

 

[Hel]

I just see one problem with that. Do you think, after going to all that trouble to rescue her, that Chris would allow the government to lock Jill up and experiment on her like a guinea pig? Because I don't think he would.

And you think he would have a say in the matter? They would bribe him like Leon or just kill him.

 

[013]

I just see one problem with that. Do you think, after going to all that trouble to rescue her, that Chris would allow the government to lock Jill up and experiment on her like a guinea pig? Because I don't think he would.

He certainly wouldn't be ok with it, but neither was Leon with Sherry. This is the government we're talking about. Leon basically had no choice he was pretty much forced.

 

[Jen]

You're

And you think he would have a say in the matter? They would bribe him like Leon or just kill him.

Remember though, Jill was a very well respected BSAA agent - if I remember rightly she founded the BSAA with eleven other people, including Chris. Without the BSAA the government would be screwed. If members of the BSAA turned in the government they wouldn't stand a chance. The case with Sherry was different - for all intents and purposes, she was just an orphan in the care of the state, i.e the government. Only Leon and Claire would fight for Sherry. I also think that Jill is of more use to the government as a field agent rather than a guinea pig for them to experiment on. They could just get a blood sample from her every now and again and let her carry on, business as usual. I just think that she's one of the leading fighters of bio terrorism, so people would have a little more difficulty with saying nothing if she was taken.