KennedyKiller
Super Saiyan Member
Resident Evil 5 is a great game. In fact, as far as story goes, it's quite possibly my second favorite in the series, next to only REmake. However, most of the replay-value comes from Mercs, and that's about it. Sure there is the BSAA emblems, but I have met only 1 person in my extensive career as an RE fan that played through the story MULTIPLE times until he finally found them all on his own. Everyone else either looked em up, or just flat didn't care enough to try...So the replay value was in a mini game, and while that's nice that people can keep coming back to it, it hardly dictates how amazing the OVER ALL replay value of the game is. And again, I love RE5...I feel I'm one of the few old school RE fans that truly DOES love RE5, so this is incredibly unbiased.
First off, Assassin's Creed was a new idea that was executed VERY well, and it was just that much BETTER when the next few came out. And from what I hear, ACIII is great as well. Now, Zelda has not been the same since LoZ: OoT. They CONTINUOUSLY add new elements to make it different. Take OoT, now the only one that is truly identical in the sense that you're saying is Majora's Mask and that's because it's the DIRECT sequel. Other games have continuously changed how Zelda was played, seen, and heard. First, you've got LoZ: The Minished Cap, which was a handheld game, so it played NOTHING like its N64 predecessor. And yes, it DOES count as a main game, as it's a main game in the LoZ canon, so handhelds can definitely be brought up here. You also have WindWaker, which added TWO brand new elements. The art style. The introduction of Cell Shading which was a HUGE thing at the time, and the change in gameplay, while subtle, is noticeable. Other LoZ games were about traveling to get from dungeon to dungeon, and from there exploring said DUNGEON. You would usually have anywhere from 10 to 13 dungeons on average in a Zelda game. Wind Waker was VERY different in that it only had 5 dungeons, and the gameplay focused on the exploration of the open world that is the Great Sea...Twilight Princess introduced another brand new art style, to give it a darker, grittier feel, and even the recycled music from previous games was changed to have a MUCH more melancholy tone. Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hour glass are innovative in that they make GREAT use of the DS Dual Screen capabilities. Four Swords gave us a multiplayer experience which was NEVR possible in Zelda before, and now you could play what used to be a STRICTLY singe player game with up to FOUR people. That was a huge deal. So the only things TRULY recycled and repeated in LoZ are the characters, for even from game to game you go to different lands. I can name more games that take place OUT of Hyrule than IN Hyrule from OoT and onward. RE is the same way. The repetitiveness of the fixed camera angles wasn't doing it's job. From there they switched to the Horror third person style of RE4...From there, they went with on Rail shooters, i.e. the Chronicles games...Then RE5, introducing Co-Op, and becoming a HUGE success. RE6 even added a lot more to the table with FAR more innovative gameplay than ANY other RE game before, and while it wasn't innovative as far as the system goes, for the SERIES it was.
Old Ideas going a long way? Isn't your main point how things have changed for the better and that we don't need to keep using the same old ideas?
There is no AVERAGE gamer. A gamer is still a person, and people are incredibly diverse and full of opinions. I would NEVER call myself a gamer, because to me, video games mostly suck. I can't enjoy them, save for the few series that I do go on and on about. You can call me close minded, but I just DON'T find them enjoyable. That's why the few that have resonated with me, that I will play OVER and OVER are held in such high regard. They are the few that do what MANY others have failed at. There is no AVERAGE gamer. There are just GAMERS. And, when you say "Average Gamer" the vast majority of people will think you are talking about the CoD and Battlefield junkies. And while this is a small community, it PERFECTLY represents gamers, because every one of us is just SO different. Stand by for examples, and if anybody reads this and sees I'm wrong, feel free to jump in.
You - Seem to be a hard core gamer for both new AND previous generations.
Jay - Very game oriented, but tends to lean more towards RPG and Fantasy style games.
Agent Zero - Anything dark and demented gaming wise is up his alley.
Jenevieva - Games that are rather brightly colored, and she can just sit down and SMILE while playing.
Me - Very casual gamer, if a gamer at all, with little enthusiasm towards gaming at all.
L - (My personal favorite) - Strategy gamer, or any game that requires a MASS of critical thinking skills.
Those games may have replay value to YOU, but to me they didn't. Replay value is going to differ depending on how the game resonated with you your very first play though. Halo 4 was good, and the story was fun, but it just DIDN'T connect with me the same way Halo Reach did...Arkham Asylum was good, but mainly because of the innovative gameplay. I'd never played a Super Hero game like that before where I felt truly invincible. One play through later I would never pick it up again because the innovation was great for ONE time, but considering my hate for Batman, simply WASN'T enough to get me to play it again. RDRedemption I haven't played because form what I'm told it's GTA in the old west. Considering I hate GTA, I DEFINITELY don't wanna play a version of it that takes place in a time period that I just don't give a SH*T about. Gears of War, never could get into the story. I can't REplay it if I haven't even gotten through ONE play of it. Note how I responded in a different way than you did to ALL of these games. Explaining why I thought most of them were GOOD yes, but lacked ANY replay value. It's because they didn't resonate with me the same way they did you. And that's ok. Games are going to appeal to gamers in a different way. That's why there are so many different genres. You can't expect us all to have the same idea of good replay value as you, because we're not all the same type of gamer you are. You may think Sonic Adventure has no replay value to it, but to me, the blue dude with a tude just NEVER gets old. I can beat the ENTIRE game...That's all 6 characters PLUS the hidden seventh character, in under three hours, but I still have JUST as much fun now as I did then.
