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ESSAY- The Pro-Life Problem: Is it even a problem at all?

Meg

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The Pro-Life Problem: Is it a Problem at all?




The abortion debate has been going on for years now and it’s obvious that the two sides of the argument, pro-life and pro-choice, do not respect each other or their opinions. All one has to do is drive past an abortion clinic and see the protesters holding up signs of aborted fetuses and screaming at the women being escorted inside to see were the disdain is. Those people are exercising their right to protest, but in a way that attacks women getting an abortion: women who have enough on their mind already.

It’s easy to understand why pro-choice identified people dislikes and in some cases loathes the pro-life side. Who wouldn’t dislike someone that screams in people’s faces that they are going to hell? And it’s not just the people, but the ideas held by pro-life supporters that the other side dislikes and dismisses as wrong.

To be pro-life means that you oppose abortion by any means because aborting an unborn baby is seen as murder. Fair enough. On the other side you have the people who are pro-choice and they believe that women deserve the right to choose what they do with their body. After all what they choose to do is going to effect them more than anyone else. Another fair point.

Reasonable people can have a mature discussion that expresses their ideas and eventually come to an agreement; even if the agreement is that they disagree. However, reason is often absent in a debate so controversial as abortion. On one side you have protesters screaming about how “abortion supporters” are going to hell and even going so far as to attack and kill doctors that preform abortion. On the other side you have people who think so lowly of the pro-life side that they dub them “anti-choice” instead and even lump all pro-life people into one category: the kind that screams and murders.

The thing is, not all pro-life people are like those extremists. Every group is going to have a sub-group that is far to extreme, and in this case out of control, that then reflects poorly onto the group as a whole. Just because you are pro-life doesn’t mean that you support the actions of those extremists and for someone to make that judgment is wrong. Even worse is that many pro-choice people identify themselves as feminists. Feminism has been stereotyped as being made up of bra-burning, men hating women on their periods. That is not what feminism is about. It is simply the belief that all men and women, regardless of class, race, sexual orientation, etc., should have equal social, political, and economic rights. Feminism is essentially the belief in equal rights for everyone. However, there are some extremists within feminism that create and reinforce that negative stereotype and make the rest of the group look terrible. Considering that you think feminists wouldn’t be so quick to judge and lump all pro-life people into one extremist category, but they do. Quite simply, that is hypocrisy.

The people who would hurt and kill people who support abortion are wrong and deserve to be in jail. Being pro-life does not mean you support the killing of innocent people. Voting against abortion does not mean you condone the acts of the extremists. It means you are a free-thinking individual with your own set of opinions and you have the right to not only have those opinions, but to act on them. A person may vote against abortion if they wish just as much as someone may vote for it. The pro-choice attitude in general is that you either fully support a woman’s right to a safe abortion if she feels she really needs it, or you are a horrible person.

This black and white way of thinking makes it difficult and awkward for people who identify themselves as pro-life feminists: even if they believe that a woman may get an abortion if she was raped, or if the pregnancy would be dangerous to her health they. To many pro-choice supporters they are still wrong and terrible. They are no better than the extremists. This puts pro-life feminists, namely me, in a very awkward spot where they feel as if their opinions are not welcome anywhere, and so they are not welcome anywhere.

I am pro-life with said exceptions, but I do not condone nor support the behavior of the extremists that would hurt, both physically and mentally, those that disagree with them. I believe that to get an abortion, excluding in the case of rape or medical reasons, is morally wrong. However, I also believe that women who feel they need an abortion for any reason are under enough stress that they do not need me telling them I think they are morally wrong. Just no. So I prefer to keep my mouth shut on the issue because I would rather see women getting safe abortions, as much as I hate it and wish they didn’t, than see them get a back ally abortion and die in the process. I hate abortion and I think it should be inaccessible to women who don’t need one for medical reasons, or worse because they were raped, but I am not about to force such opinions onto those women because I can not even begin to understand what they are going through.

I am not about to ask other pro-life people to do the same though. Everyone has a right to protest. If someone wants to protest abortion they can because it is their right. Other people don’t have to agree with what they say, but it is still their right and respect should be given to those that present their opinion in a mature manner. As for those that would scream and harm others: turn away from them. Many of those people use religion, especially Christianity, as justification for what they are doing. In the face of those people, demonstrate proper Christianity and turn away from them, but refrain from judging them. And that goes for both sides of the argument.
 
While it probably won't come to a surprise to anyone here that I'm pro-choice, I actually think this is one of the very few controversial issues in society that have entirely valid points on both sides. I just chose the one that made the most sense to myself. My problem with legislating abortion is based entirely on the fact that men still largely dominate politics and policy-making procedures - and I have a serious problem with entitled, rich white men telling women what they can or can not do with their bodies. I'm not having that discussion.

At the same time however, I also take issue with how lightly abortion is taken by girls in this day and age. I'm going to be entirely honest - I've had an abortion a few years ago and it's still something I feel largely guilty about (although I don't regret the decision as it was, for me, necessary) and that was without the shrieking harpy protestors. I feel now though that many young women are using it as a form of birth control and that's something I see as very wrong. Abortion should be a last resort, not a 'quick and easy fix' or a replacement for the pill.

And lastly, I think some pro-lifers (not all, but the ones who go around shooting doctors and what-not) practise the very height of hypocrisy. Right... so, say your God does exist... what can you possibly do to that doctor and his or her patients that God won't do? How does shooting a doctor who performs abortions make YOU any better or more righteous a person than he? And for the record, people like Michele Bachmann, Sharon Engle, and Sarah Palin who believe abortion should be illegal EVEN in cases of rape, molestation, and incest have clearly been lucky enough never to have experienced any of those things or they probably wouldn't have those particular opinions in the first place. Abortion should never be seen as a 'life throws you lemons' thing and I find that view pretty unbelievable in its audacity.

See, I'm the most fair and reasonable person in the world.
 
2 excellent posts.

Meg, i feel no need to add anything to your 5 star post.. very wise and you've done a good job in isolating the nutters from the sane. Well done.

Femme, I know in your eyes, someone like me, being a tall,blonde haired, blue eyed White European Christian, i'm most unfashionable, but all i'll say is this.

From my understanding of God.

In your case, with as much respect and compassion as fonts appearing on your screen can afford me. God cares only for what is in your heart. Upon witnessing the burden that is there over your choice, i fail to see how God would/could display any anger towards you.

My stance on this subject, again, from my understanding of the Bible is this.... I'am pro choice.... pro choice to me, is another way of saying, Free Will, the very thing god gave us.

I've often wondered like Meg said earlier... about these extreamists and all that... why so many factions on so many things... Why does the Bible have so many sects attached to it ? why do pro choice and all the rest of it have so many different sects... and to be honest... i think the problem is the people, not the subject or topic, but the people... and the key word is... Dishonesty. There is much dishonesty in the world...and it causes many problems..as it takes form in many many areas.

Dishonesty is such a defunct act to me as a Christian, because to me, what people conceal in their closets from others, sits like an elephant in the corner of Gods living room.

Anyways, i've said enough....

Again, meg, Femme, excellent posts.
 
The abortion debate has been going on for years now and it’s obvious that the two sides of the argument, pro-life and pro-choice, do not respect each other or their opinions. All one has to do is drive past an abortion clinic and see the protesters holding up signs of aborted fetuses and screaming at the women being escorted inside to see were the disdain is. Those people are exercising their right to protest, but in a way that attacks women getting an abortion: women who have enough on their mind already.


Reasonable people can have a mature discussion that expresses their ideas and eventually come to an agreement; even if the agreement is that they disagree. However, reason is often absent in a debate so controversial as abortion. On one side you have protesters screaming about how “abortion supporters” are going to hell and even going so far as to attack and kill doctors that preform abortion. On the other side you have people who think so lowly of the pro-life side that they dub them “anti-choice” instead and even lump all pro-life people into one category: the kind that screams and murders.
Meg you are wise, you write like a philosopher. :)

Abortion is not controversial in Norway (nor in other Nordic countries I belive), most people, including moderate religious people accepts it. Maybe many people dislike how liberal our laws are on abortion, but not enough to make it a topic.

I'm from a Christian family and I am a Christian, and I do not see abortion as morally wrong. Why should we humans not have the right to abort something that we started? No woman since Mary have had an Immaculate Conception. And if God is not the father, I'm sure he won't have a problem with women aborting their pregnancy.

I have seen on TV how "pro-life" fanatics operate in USA, and I don't understand how they can be allowed to harass people. They have a right to protest, and I support that right, but when it goes that far it should be classed as harassment and stopped. The abortion clinics nor their patients makes the laws, the pro-life demonstrators should take their protests elsewhere.
And regular hospitals should maybe perform the abortions instead of abortion clinics. We do not have abortion clinics, abortions are done at our regular hospitals, and I can imagine it's a lot easier for patients when it's not obvious to everyone why they seek medical attention.

Fanatics who protest outside abortion clinics and harass patients, should be shot with paintguns, if the law is useless against such harassment. I'd want to do that, paintballs doesn't kill anyone.


This black and white way of thinking makes it difficult and awkward for people who identify themselves as pro-life feminists: even if they believe that a woman may get an abortion if she was raped, or if the pregnancy would be dangerous to her health they.
"dangerous to her health they." ....they what? I think you forgot a word there. ;)
 
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