Time for a reboot? Maybe

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-Okay,so I'm a resident evil fan.have been for years,however,there have been a significant number of inconsistencies in games,inconsitencies that irk me and questions.

-example,the difference between Alexia ashford in Code:Veronica vs. Umbrella chronicles
-Rebecca in RE0 ,vs Re1 and REmake.
-Rebecca period...I mean ,medical genius in a world of bioterrorism? plot point,guys
-Did Richard Aiken really have to die inRE1/ REmake
-Wesker's plan was reallllly dumb...period (not relevant)
-what was this stupid virus he took/
-what the **** is uroburos ? I know what it is,but I don't.What the hell was the point of that? I mean if that was HIS virus...
-where is Manuella Hidalgo? too important to disapear guys
-also,that area she lived was ALL infected, how do you run by this? VERONICA PLANT,did it spread and how far?
-Manuella again
-The Wesker children thing and AlexWesker
-who the **** is ada wong for real....no really?
-more HUNK and USS period
-And Carlos Oliviera is where now?
-what the hell happened to HUNK?
-how did jill,leon,claire and ada not run into each other? At all?Raccoon city is relatively small next to other cities..(i looked this up)
-And Piers was from a military family...where are his siblings/cousins to honor him?
-still wanna know what woman birth Jake,who went to bed with that sick bastard,Albert Wesker?
-What the **** happened to him in his childhood ?(wesker children an aborted arc)
-seriously,what was spencer's damn problem?there had had to be motivation
-SHEVA and Josh
-Jill?
-a game that specifically detailed chris's insane hunt for umbrella...claire before capture(okay ,I'm reaching)
-Again,Ms.Chambers.
-Glad barry's back (not relevant)
-Are there more people like Jake and his dad (mom?!) who can handle the proginator (though I think it ate Wesker's mind).This is important,guys
-Wesker said steve could be revived.DID IT HAPPEN?
-Carla Radames and her special dna
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some of it is reaching
 
-Okay,so I'm a resident evil fan.have been for years,however,there have been a significant number of inconsistencies in games,inconsitencies that irk me and questions.

-example,the difference between Alexia ashford in Code:Veronica vs. Umbrella chronicles
-Rebecca in RE0 ,vs Re1 and REmake.
-Rebecca period...I mean ,medical genius in a world of bioterrorism? plot point,guys
-Did Richard Aiken really have to die inRE1/ REmake
-Wesker's plan was reallllly dumb...period (not relevant)
-what was this stupid virus he took/
-what the **** is uroburos ? I know what it is,but I don't.What the hell was the point of that? I mean if that was HIS virus...
-where is Manuella Hidalgo? too important to disapear guys
-also,that area she lived was ALL infected, how do you run by this? VERONICA PLANT,did it spread and how far?
-Manuella again
-The Wesker children thing and AlexWesker
-who the **** is ada wong for real....no really?
-more HUNK and USS period
-And Carlos Oliviera is where now?
-what the hell happened to HUNK?
-how did jill,leon,claire and ada not run into each other? At all?Raccoon city is relatively small next to other cities..(i looked this up)
-And Piers was from a military family...where are his siblings/cousins to honor him?
-still wanna know what woman birth Jake,who went to bed with that sick bastard,Albert Wesker?
-What the **** happened to him in his childhood ?(wesker children an aborted arc)
-seriously,what was spencer's damn problem?there had had to be motivation
-SHEVA and Josh
-Jill?
-a game that specifically detailed chris's insane hunt for umbrella...claire before capture(okay ,I'm reaching)
-Again,Ms.Chambers.
-Glad barry's back (not relevant)
-Are there more people like Jake and his dad (mom?!) who can handle the proginator (though I think it ate Wesker's mind).This is important,guys
-Wesker said steve could be revived.DID IT HAPPEN?
-Carla Radames and her special dna
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some of it is reaching
...The vast majority of these aren't plot holes at all...You just don't like the answers, or haven't looked hard enough...Either way, I'll gladly explain...

example,the difference between Alexia ashford in Code:Veronica vs. Umbrella chronicles
Leon is retelling the events to Krauser. He was not there, so he heard them secondhand, be it from Claire, Chris, or whomever, it's not really relevant, because this is nothing but a flashback, and has no overall impact on the actual cannon story that is "Operation Javier." Leon may have gotten a detail or two wrong, but it doesn't alter the story at all. Every time someone in real life hear's a story, it changes a little. Like a game of telephone.
-Rebecca in RE0 ,vs Re1 and REmake.
Rebecca from RE1 doesn't matter. non-cannon. as for Rebecca from RE0 vs. REmake, she's relatively the same character. No matter how you slice it, she's an 18 year old girl who is alone in REmake. In RE0 you have Billy nearly the ENTIRE time, plus you have a gun. It's stated that in between RE0 and RE1 she loses her gun, so add the loss of a gun to no longer having a strong partner at your side, yeah, she's bound to be a little different.
Rebecca period...I mean ,medical genius in a world of bioterrorism? plot point,guys
That makes no sense...For one, when Resident Evil starts it's NOT a world of Bio-Terrorism. On top of that, just because you're a prodigy or a genius doesn't mean you have all the answers to everything. Albert Einstein was a genius, and so is Stephen Hawking, yet there are still questions on this earth about physics...
-Did Richard Aiken really have to die inRE1/ REmake
Again...Rather stupid question...No one HAS to die in anything. It's all dependent on how the writers write the story...But A. This is supposed to be a deadly survival situation, and be, what kind of horror game/movie/book, or whatever form of media, doesn't have people die. It would be stupid for him to live. His death was a horrific moment in a game built AROUND horror...
Wesker's plan was reallllly dumb...period (not relevant)
How is Wesker's plan dumb? Get lots of money and be rich and powerful was his first plan. Not bad. Nice things ans whatnot. Then, he goes even bigger when he finds out about his origins. How is being a God a bad plan, when you are genetically modified to be superior to every living thing...Which he was...
what was this stupid virus he took/
A prototype virus designed SPECIFICALLY for the Wesker children to enhance their abilities.
what the **** is uroburos ? I know what it is,but I don't.What the hell was the point of that? I mean if that was HIS virus...
It was Wesker's way of cleansing the world. No easier way to kill the entire human race...And this doesn't run the risk of nuclear fallout...
where is Manuella Hidalgo? too important to disapear guys
Manuella is in US custody. Considering she was taken into custody in a very similar manner as to how Sherry was raised, it may be possible she plays a similar role. However, we also have to remember she was a sickly girl, and using her powers made her even worse. It's possible she's dead, still in custody, working the an organization. Who knows. But just because we don't have an answer right away, doesn't mean we won't get one. That's bad story telling. Patience is a virtue...
The Wesker children thing and AlexWesker
How is this a plot hole? It's simple...Children with High IQ's were abducted, studied, and given a surname of Wesker. All of them died due to experimentation except for Alex and Albert. Alex went missing while doing research into immortality.
-who the **** is ada wong for real....no really?
Again, we don't know what Capcom's plan is...She's only been in three games, and every time we learn a little more about her. Chill out...It's bad story telling to just give everything away all at once...Get some patience...
more HUNK and USS period
Why...They worked for Umbrella, and Umbrella doesn't exist anymore...Their part of the story has been told...There is really nothing more to learn...
And Carlos Oliviera is where now?
Again, he was just a merc hired by Umbrella. He went down the tubes when they did. He probably is a Merc for some other company now. He wasn't tied to Umbrella like the others...He probably went on to live without really worrying about Bio-Terror....
-what the hell happened to HUNK?
Again, he's just not relevant right now. The company he worked for is gone. Boom. End of story. You're over thinking his value to the series...
how did jill,leon,claire and ada not run into each other? At all?Raccoon city is relatively small next to other cities..(i looked this up)
Actually, I live in a city nearly the exact same size as Raccoon city, and if there are only FOUR people alive, you have BARELY a chance of finding each other. It makes PERFECT sense that they wouldn't have any idea about each other. Not to mention the fact that Resident Evil 2 takes place on the SECOND day of the outbreak. Resident Evil 3 starts on Day one. Then Jill gets infected. She is recuperating for a full day (The events of RE2 happen), then on the third day she and Carlos leave the church and continue. On top of that, Leon and Claire are almost EXCLUSIVELY in the Underground lab and in the Police Station. Not in the city itself like the other two.
-And Piers was from a military family...where are his siblings/cousins to honor him?
This is not relevant in any way, shape, or form to the story...
-still wanna know what woman birth Jake,who went to bed with that sick bastard,Albert Wesker?
Any woman may want Albert Wesker. He doesn't exactly show off that he's a creep. And this would have been in his early years working for Umbrella. He's suave, smart, and good looking. He probably had women all the time.
-seriously,what was spencer's damn problem?there had had to be motivation
Plenty of motivation. He wanted MORE money and MORE power, and only had so long of a lifespan to do it in.


Does this clear anything up?
 
KennedyKiller summed up my thoughts exactly lol.

Pretty much everything you listed as plotholes and inconsistencies could be easily explained as proven above, Resident Evil is 1 of the few long running series that is consistent as far as its story goes, Castlevania and Devil May Cry on the other hand...
 
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Leon is retelling the events to Krauser. He was not there, so he heard them secondhand, be it from Claire, Chris, or whomever, it's not really relevant, because this is nothing but a flashback, and has no overall impact on the actual cannon story that is "Operation Javier." Leon may have gotten a detail or two wrong, but it doesn't alter the story at all. Every time someone in real life hear's a story, it changes a little. Like a game of telephone.

This isn't real life. Leon didn't screw any details up, he's just a fictional character. The game was written out by real people who have the power to alter canon, not Leon.

As for a reboot, it could work. The series is already having an identity crisis so a reboot is a great way to reestablish the series. While that sounds good and all, I don't think Capcom can handle that task. The stories and characters of Resident Evil have been so iconic and a reboot means there's a chance a lot of that would be changed. So I'm reluctant of a reboot myself even if it is a fresh start for the series.
 
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...The vast majority of these aren't plot holes at all...You just don't like the answers, or haven't looked hard enough...Either way, I'll gladly explain...


Leon is retelling the events to Krauser. He was not there, so he heard them secondhand, be it from Claire, Chris, or whomever, it's not really relevant, because this is nothing but a flashback, and has no overall impact on the actual cannon story that is "Operation Javier." Leon may have gotten a detail or two wrong, but it doesn't alter the story at all. Every time someone in real life hear's a story, it changes a little. Like a game of telephone.

Rebecca from RE1 doesn't matter. non-cannon. as for Rebecca from RE0 vs. REmake, she's relatively the same character. No matter how you slice it, she's an 18 year old girl who is alone in REmake. In RE0 you have Billy nearly the ENTIRE time, plus you have a gun. It's stated that in between RE0 and RE1 she loses her gun, so add the loss of a gun to no longer having a strong partner at your side, yeah, she's bound to be a little different.

That makes no sense...For one, when Resident Evil starts it's NOT a world of Bio-Terrorism. On top of that, just because you're a prodigy or a genius doesn't mean you have all the answers to everything. Albert Einstein was a genius, and so is Stephen Hawking, yet there are still questions on this earth about physics...

Again...Rather stupid question...No one HAS to die in anything. It's all dependent on how the writers write the story...But A. This is supposed to be a deadly survival situation, and be, what kind of horror game/movie/book, or whatever form of media, doesn't have people die. It would be stupid for him to live. His death was a horrific moment in a game built AROUND horror...

How is Wesker's plan dumb? Get lots of money and be rich and powerful was his first plan. Not bad. Nice things ans whatnot. Then, he goes even bigger when he finds out about his origins. How is being a God a bad plan, when you are genetically modified to be superior to every living thing...Which he was...

A prototype virus designed SPECIFICALLY for the Wesker children to enhance their abilities.

It was Wesker's way of cleansing the world. No easier way to kill the entire human race...And this doesn't run the risk of nuclear fallout...

Manuella is in US custody. Considering she was taken into custody in a very similar manner as to how Sherry was raised, it may be possible she plays a similar role. However, we also have to remember she was a sickly girl, and using her powers made her even worse. It's possible she's dead, still in custody, working the an organization. Who knows. But just because we don't have an answer right away, doesn't mean we won't get one. That's bad story telling. Patience is a virtue...

How is this a plot hole? It's simple...Children with High IQ's were abducted, studied, and given a surname of Wesker. All of them died due to experimentation except for Alex and Albert. Alex went missing while doing research into immortality.

Again, we don't know what Capcom's plan is...She's only been in three games, and every time we learn a little more about her. Chill out...It's bad story telling to just give everything away all at once...Get some patience...

Why...They worked for Umbrella, and Umbrella doesn't exist anymore...Their part of the story has been told...There is really nothing more to learn...

Again, he was just a merc hired by Umbrella. He went down the tubes when they did. He probably is a Merc for some other company now. He wasn't tied to Umbrella like the others...He probably went on to live without really worrying about Bio-Terror....

Again, he's just not relevant right now. The company he worked for is gone. Boom. End of story. You're over thinking his value to the series...

Actually, I live in a city nearly the exact same size as Raccoon city, and if there are only FOUR people alive, you have BARELY a chance of finding each other. It makes PERFECT sense that they wouldn't have any idea about each other. Not to mention the fact that Resident Evil 2 takes place on the SECOND day of the outbreak. Resident Evil 3 starts on Day one. Then Jill gets infected. She is recuperating for a full day (The events of RE2 happen), then on the third day she and Carlos leave the church and continue. On top of that, Leon and Claire are almost EXCLUSIVELY in the Underground lab and in the Police Station. Not in the city itself like the other two.

This is not relevant in any way, shape, or form to the story...

Any woman may want Albert Wesker. He doesn't exactly show off that he's a creep. And this would have been in his early years working for Umbrella. He's suave, smart, and good looking. He probably had women all the time.

Plenty of motivation. He wanted MORE money and MORE power, and only had so long of a lifespan to do


Does this clear anything up?



Hey, this thread is only semi serious. It's really me ragging on the series.
The only ones that actually concern me?
-manuela
-where is Rebecca (barry came back)
-and spencer being anti climatic.
-the rest was reaching, calm down guys
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As for jake's mother -
-and wesker probably had droves of women (I'm one of his admirers) .had to be a one night stand ...dunno bout other chicks, but guys like him are too good to be true, so I steer clear of those...real life advice, anybody with their **** together lije that has some hidden problem that's gonna be helluva lot more than you signed up for

-still thjnk his plans were dumb...maybe arrogance


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-oh right as for wesker's plans being dumb-

-he could've died for real on RE1/REmake,virus was not guaranteed to work.This makes him reckless and foolish

-i can't argue with what happened in CVX...except that he had to go for a back up plan when Alexia almost smoked his ass .And unfortunately,operation:javier...that was for money and the horrific outcome,I can see it as valuable for research..especially with the veronica plant /v-complex thing and how hilda reacted to manuela's singing and manuela...it was damn evil,dirty and ****ed up,but it's wesker.sadly, i can see the value in that research though.can see a creepy symbiotic garden of eden thing coming out of this ,idk.

-re4...trusting ada wong? really? knowing her this long he should've known she was shifty,he had a back up plan ,but still...

-re5...'sigh'.. even if he did get to use his virus on the world,what if everyone died and he was the ONLY one (besides jake) left? what then?he would die because with society shut down,access to resources are limited.what is his syrum made from? potential death

-what if the survivors knew it was him (he would tell them,he's an idiot like that),they'll kill him.or kill him just because.or ,they could be stronger than him and again,just kill him either way,ain't nobody bowin' down to a god...he would get capped.really

-and also,say everyone becomes tentacle monster...wesker would be the only food left...wesker chops anyone?

-yes he is tall ,dark and handsome and utterly badass...but he's not as smart as he thinks he is
 
Devil May Cry was rebooted. Now I didn't mind it, but you know how the fandom reacted with it.

Of course, with the rumors of Devil May Cry 5, I'm a little excited to see our favorite immortal, c*cky, white haired protagonist on the next gen consoles, with trash talk that doesn't have every other word be f*ck.

Back on RE, they should the main series with a bang before they reboot it. Like have a game actually end with COMPLETE! GLOBAL! SATURATION! of the current virus of the week, killing most or all of the main cast and destroying civilization as we know it. Or have Chris and Leon use their manliness to save the day once and for all and give them all a happy ending. I would love either scenario.

Also what happened to Carlos? The poor SOB didn't even get an epilogue in RE3. Chris, who wasn't even in RE2 or RE3, and Barry who had, at best, a few minutes of almost face time at the very end in one of two endings got epilogues.
 
Devil May Cry was rebooted. Now I didn't mind it, but you know how the fandom reacted with it.

Of course, with the rumors of Devil May Cry 5, I'm a little excited to see our favorite immortal, c*cky, white haired protagonist on the next gen consoles, with trash talk that doesn't have every other word be f*ck.

Back on RE, they should the main series with a bang before they reboot it. Like have a game actually end with COMPLETE! GLOBAL! SATURATION! of the current virus of the week, killing most or all of the main cast and destroying civilization as we know it. Or have Chris and Leon use their manliness to save the day once and for all and give them all a happy ending. I would love either scenario.

Also what happened to Carlos? The poor SOB didn't even get an epilogue in RE3. Chris, who wasn't even in RE2 or RE3, and Barry who had, at best, a few minutes of almost face time at the very end in one of two endings got epilogues.

True. They can only keep their characters alive for so long. If they don't reboot it, we'll be playing as Chris in a wheelchair xD
I still never want it to end. Old man Chris is better than a reboot in my opinion.

I liked Carlos, but I don't really miss him. They could expand on his story somehow, you never know. It took almost 19 years for Barry to reappear as a main character in a game even though it seemed like he woild never come back, so Carlos could pop back up in the next few years.
 
True. They can only keep their characters alive for so long. If they don't reboot it, we'll be playing as Chris in a wheelchair xD
I still never want it to end. Old man Chris is better than a reboot in my opinion.

-Yeah,Chris is awesome.But I think the really dropped the ball killing Piers.He could've been the next gen protagonist,him ,Sherry and Piers.

And then Manuela can make an appearance,or be mentioned.
 
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Personally, I thought it was time for a reboot shortly after RE5 gave Wesker a lavabath and two RPGs to the face.

-yes ,a nintendo boss fight in lava (mario,I'm looking at you...at least samus had a suit)...I guess they thought it was awesome.It wasn't.

if only we can retcon the whole game.

plus ,the controls and AI made me mad.personal bias