What are you thinking? (Part 2)

[KennedyKiller]

Yeah true but your post also confirmed that this character have nothing to do whit the comic book joker...

Is just a guy whit mental problem that call himself joker... There is no actual accuracy whit the comic... If it wasn't for joaquin Phoenix amazing performance it would have been just a movie about a mentally insane guy...

The problem is your boxed in view of the Joker. The Joker isn't always a "Mastermind," as you put it. He's just a foil to Batman. That's all. And as such can be written in almost ANY way. Anarchist. Murderer. Mob Boss. Madman. Smart. Out of his mind. The list goes on. But the ever present consistency between nearly all incarnations, is that he's vile in a way that turns your stomach. He's always represented something that we can wrap our minds around being the ultimate distorted brain, regardless of whether he's a Gangster with a plan, or an indiscriminate killer out for his own kicks. And this Joker still has that same vibe. Just a rotten brain that, rather than trying to justify his actions, instead has no delusions about what he is and is gleeful about it. In that regard...he's just like the comics joker. Or Tim Burton's Joker. Or BtAS Joker. Or Nolan's Joker.

 

[bSTAR_182]

I finally folded and put away all my clean laundry that was on my floor. :biggrin:

 

[Deleted member 21244]

The problem is your boxed in view of the Joker. The Joker isn't always a "Mastermind," as you put it. He's just a foil to Batman. That's all. And as such can be written in almost ANY way. Anarchist. Murderer. Mob Boss. Madman. Smart. Out of his mind. The list goes on. But the ever present consistency between nearly all incarnations, is that he's vile in a way that turns your stomach. He's always represented something that we can wrap our minds around being the ultimate distorted brain, regardless of whether he's a Gangster with a plan, or an indiscriminate killer out for his own kicks. And this Joker still has that same vibe. Just a rotten brain that, rather than trying to justify his actions, instead has no delusions about what he is and is gleeful about it. In that regard...he's just like the comics joker. Or Tim Burton's Joker. Or BtAS Joker. Or Nolan's Joker.

True, but this also can be said about batman...
Tim Burton s batman, Nolan s batman and Zack Snyder batman are all 3 different rapresentation of the character but they are still recognizable as batman, for example bale and Affleck batman are completely different and have two different vision of bad and good, and they have different goal, but they still rapresent batman... probably the same can be said about matt reeves s batman, but we still don't know that yet because we didn't see the movie yet

Also joker can't be written in any way, or he will just be any other villain

 

[Angel]

I finally folded and put away all my clean laundry that was on my floor. :biggrin:

You're a far better woman than I'll ever be...

 

[bSTAR_182]

You're a far better woman than I'll ever be...

Idk, my room was a hot mess for a couple weeks there. Literally was picking things up off the floor and putting them on for the work day. :lol:

 

[UniqTeas]

In reference to Justice League - I hardly ever rewatch modern movies. But I will probably give this a shot. Hopefully they fix Superman's mouth. I don't know if they'll be able to fix my biggest flaw with the film though. Which is... as soon as Superman returns, the main enemy becomes a damn joke. Steppenwolf literally just crumbles in a second. That is realistic considering the difference in power between Superman and the remainder of the Justice League. But that is not all that fun to watch. The buildup of the film is suddenly over. The rest of the cast becomes pushovers.

But I did overall like the film. I liked the personality of the individual performers. Obviously, the story is monstrous and the pacing is off. But maybe the Snyder Version can fix some of these things?

 

[Rain611]

@Mr.R Josh Brolin is amazing. I especially liked him as Cable in Deadpool 2.

 

[Deleted member 21244]

In reference to Justice League - I hardly ever rewatch modern movies. But I will probably give this a shot. Hopefully they fix Superman's mouth. I don't know if they'll be able to fix my biggest flaw with the film though. Which is... as soon as Superman returns, the main enemy becomes a damn joke. Steppenwolf literally just crumbles in a second. That is realistic considering the difference in power between Superman and the remainder of the Justice League. But that is not all that fun to watch. The buildup of the film is suddenly over. The rest of the cast becomes pushovers.

But I did overall like the film. I liked the personality of the individual performers. Obviously, the story is monstrous and the pacing is off. But maybe the Snyder Version can fix some of these things?

Remember that the justice league in theater was completely re shooted, if i remember correctly only 20 or less % of Snyder footage where used... It's like they shoot two movie... So the Snyder cut will be a completely different movie...

Henry cavill mustaches where present during the re shoot for the teathrical version so the Snyder Version wil have Henry cavill real performance whitout mustache covered by cgi

Edit: just find out that only 10% of Snyder footage were used for the theatrical version and that they were also modified to not have a dark tone like Zack Snyder wanted

 

[UniqTeas]

I actually did not know any of that! I thought it was just a recutting of the same film with more content. I didn't know it was a completely different movie. So, this is Justice League Dark, huh? I am in to it. I do not think DC will be able to fix their CGI in general, but hey, you can't win em all. DC is huge. They should have better CGI than they do as a WHOLE.

 

[Deleted member 21244]

I actually did not know any of that! I thought it was just a recutting of the same film with more content. I didn't know it was a completely different movie. So, this is Justice League Dark, huh? I am in to it. I do not think DC will be able to fix their CGI in general, but hey, you can't win em all. DC is huge. They should have better CGI than they do as a WHOLE.

Cgi was not that good in justice league because of the fact that there was little time to work on the movie whit reshoot after they decide to not release Snyder version and also because they spend the double of the original budget to do those reshoot, so they just released the movie even whit bad cgi there was no time and didn't want to spend other money on it.... Man of steel and batman vs superman had good cgi overall, but yeah some part have bad cgi

Right now They are giving an additional 30 or 40 milion budget to zack Snyder to finish his cut, so maybe they are adjusting cgi and other detail, at least i hope so XD

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No cgi deleted mustache for cavill ahahahah also the visual and lighting is completely different, more darker in Snyder version... Affleck was also in better shape during Snyder shoot, while he was more fat in face his during re shoot, he was out of shape

 

[UniqTeas]

Wow - I did NOT realize how many differences there actually were. These images are blowing my mind. And yeah - Affleck looks 100% different in the reshoots. I have to pray for DC. I love DC. Wonder Woman 1984 better blow people away.

 

[Deleted member 21244]

Wow - I did NOT realize how many differences there actually were. These images are blowing my mind. And yeah - Affleck looks 100% different in the reshoots. I have to pray for DC. I love DC. Wonder Woman 1984 better blow people away.

I hope so, DCEU had all the right things to be really amazing, but Warner brows did all the worst decision... I hope this justices league give Affleck and Cavill the screen time they deserve, we can finally see they're actual performance, no cgi cavill and no tyred out of shape Affleck

 

[Jen]

I'm concerned right now that social distancing rules will be flouted in the UK - especially considering tomorrow is a holiday - because our prime minister defended his top aide who made a 500 mile round trip to go to his family when he had covid symptoms by saying he acted 'responsibly, legally and with integrity'. This was against lockdown rules at the time and his wife published that they stayed home the entire time, and for him to be defended by the PM is a total f you to everyone who followed lockdown and social distancing guidelines.

Of course, that makes me angry. He definitely shouldn't have made that trip, especially with symptoms - not just because of government advice but because it's just the right bloody thing to do (which millions of people, myself included, have done when they presented with symptoms). The government should not have defended that, because that makes it one rule for us and another for you. But something else I'm worrying about is that I'm now seeing many people saying 'We're going to do what we want now, lockdown is effectively over'. I'm worried that this is now going to cause a second wave of infection. I'm praying that this won't be the case.

Sorry to talk politics folks. I did dither over whether or not to post this, it was just something I needed to get off my mind. Sometimes I just despair at this whole situation.

Side note, I still haven't regained my full sense of taste, and my sense of smell is barely there at all. I miss smell the most though, which is mainly because I miss smelling my Body Shop products. :lol:

 

[Angel]

I'm with you on all of the above, to be fair. Every since the announcement of "stay alert" was made, rather than "stay home", people have been acting as though life is back to normal, almost.

But it's not. It may never go back to how it used to be, although that's not necessarily a bad thing in some areas of life. Covid-19 will most likely be here to stay, even if it's in waves over years - after all, the flu hasn't gone. The common cold hasn't gone. SARS and MERS are still here. We will, if necessary, learn to live and adapt accordingly. But to undo all the hard work the majority of the country has done just because it's a bit sunny or the PM won't discipline his idiot staff...that's just stupid.

As far as care homes are concerned, the NHS reckon they've been the second wave already. But there will be more waves, smaller ones, as this ebbs slowly. And it will, because that's how these things tend to work. Even if it never loses its pandemic status, such as the case with HIV to date, the impact will be lessened as we learn to adapt and survive. Or vaccinate (except for the crazy antivaxxers who need psychiatric evaluation, imo).

My biggest issue with this all right now is school. I'm not sending my youngest two kids to school after next week because a few hours a week of no real lessons, no playing in the playground and no socialising at lunch for 6 more weeks until the summer break is pointless. My eldest son has had a place available since lockdown began, as he is a vulnerable child, but there was no point in letting him stay in school when everything was going to be completely different from the normal school day.

My argument is that the virus was in the UK before lockdown. It'll probably be there after lockdown. We were washing our hands and not licking people before lockdown. Pretty sure we can do that after lockdown. Kids are less at risk and unless these infamous antibody tests can be sorted out, no one will know for sure whether someone has had the virus before. And there is no guarantee you can't get it again - much like colds and flu. Kids were carrying the virus around BEFORE lockdown...then we all stayed home and suddenly the infection rate went mental.

I don't get the logic of making schools socially distant at all. The viral cat is already well out of the viral bag - we can't stuff it back in by making classes smaller. Better hygiene? Yes. Feel unwell? Stay at home by all means. But it's all gone a bit medieval with the reactions in some ways - once upon a time, flu was new. We managed. We learned. We adapted and we found some semblance of vaccination, although it's nowhere near perfect and pretty useless the older you get. But life doesn't shut down every winter across the world...one day, the same will happen during Covid-19 season or whatever they'll end up calling it.

The UK government made a lot of mistakes and are still doing so. But having said that, I would absolutely HATE to have their job.

 

[Jen]

Agreed, things probably won't ever be the same again and I'm of the opinion that this particular illness has been around since autumn. So many people around that time were ill with similar symptoms. My grandparents both had severe illnesses with all the covid symptoms in November that took them weeks to get over. There will also be different strains as the virus mutates.

I despair at both sides of this, if I'm honest. The government didn't act quickly enough and gave some conflicting advice, so people used the loopholes as excuses for breaking lockdown (and I don't mean everyone did that, just some. A lot of people I know have upheld lockdown admirably). Both things contributed to things getting as bad as they have done.

I definitely do not envy the parents that have to decide whether to send their children back to school in a week. I don't blame you for not sending yours back. They may as well just write the academic year off in my opinion, for various reasons, some of which you outlined above.

I think the main difference with this outbreak is that there isn't a vaccine and it's much more infectious than other strains. Once this more 'initial' phase of it is done and we get a reasonably effective vaccine, it'll probably become similar to other strains of flu in terms of infection rates. We've just got to hope people stay sensible until then.

And yeah, screw antivaxxers. Especially those who enforce that viewpoint when it comes to their children.

 

[Angel]

I definitely believe that if it wasn't so contagious, no one would be especially panicky about it. Think about when Ebola hit our shores...let's be honest, no one went crazy over it. It hit the headlines, made a few people freak out but because Ebola is harder to catch, there was no shut down or widespread panic about the whole thing. The surgeries advised a few things for those coming back from West Africa especially, but otherwise the whole thing calmed down in a very short space of time.

I think the media has a big part to play in all this too - lots of hysteria, misinformation and conspiracy theories have abounded across all possible platforms and the news outlets have played the public beautifully in terms of manipulating emotions. Which is nothing new. And then you get people like Trump who...yeah, well, the less said about that man the better in every possible case.

The vast majority of people in the UK have never faced something like this before. They have never had their comfortable lives disrupted to such a degree - we have not experienced war time on our shores like it was experienced last century, we have not suffered famine or drought on a third world scale like others have...we get flooded in places from time to time, it gets a bit windy, granted, and sometimes our internet is shocking. But tongue in cheek comments aside, we have had less than 10 weeks of this. For many others, they've never known anything different their entire lives - whether it be war, famine, disease, poverty or natural disasters. I can't even imagine the fortitude it takes to get up every day, knowing you live in a place of utter have-not. And then throw this virus into that mix...I'm a proper disaster lightweight by comparison.

Yet it's all relative, isn't it? We cannot imagine their lives because it's so different from ours. Which is why, I guess, images from Italy struck more of a chord with me than images from, say, India. Seeing places like Trafalgar Square and Oxford Circus deserted was more impactful for me than crowds in Kolkata, panic-buying.

I wonder if, should I ever have grandchildren, they'd believe some of the stories from the last few months...if they'll be learning about this in school and asking me what it was like living during the 2020 Pandemic for their history project or whatever.

But then, let's be honest, I wouldn't want them in my house bothering me. Them and wasps :lol::lol:

 

[Jonipoon]

My PC laptop crashed about a week ago, and although I have most of my stuff stored on external harddrives it still drives me crazy. After talking with my local IT respair shop it turns out the fan was overheated, which it turn damaged the mothercard. Worst part is that my pc is a HP, so repairing the damage is basically impossible. If I had an Acer, DELL, Lenovo or any other brand it’d actually be fixable.... God damm it, after all of this is said and done I’m never buying a HP again!

I’m currently writing this on an iPad. I don’t know if I can afford to buy a new laptop anytime soon, at least not one with the kind of specifications I’m looking for. Sure, I could always buy some cheap-ass laptop for 200 bucks, but it would feel like a waste.

The only good thing to come out of this is that I finally decided to give RE4 a try, which I’m playing on PS4. I’ve almost completed my first run already and I’ll be sharing my impressions in the RE4 sub-forum.

 

[Angel]

Beth Rigby from Sky News is my new superhero.

She BATTERED Dom Cummings...ran utter rings around that idiot.

What a woman

 

[Rain611]

I think 2020 needs to calm down just a bit.

 

[Turo602]

I hate people.