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Alternate Timelines: How should things have gone?

JHJ

"Doth Mother Know You Weareth Her Drapes?"
Okay, folks, join me on a trip back in time to mess with history! (Hey, if it's good enough for Barry Allen...)

Let's set the scene: it's back in mid-late 2000. RE: Code Veronica has just been released on Dreamcast in early February that year. We're about five and a half years away from RE4 being released.

Here's where we change the timeline and bring about an alternate future, all with one simple question: what direction would YOU have taken the RE games storyline in from Code Veronica onwards?
 

Cure Zombrex

Well-Known Member
Well, we needed to see Umbrella go down, but instead we got that in The Umbrella Chronicles, which looks like it was developed and designed entirely by mongoloids that had never played an entire entry in the series up to that point. There was one or two nice ideas chucked in there, like the in-between stories with Richard and Rebecca, and all the stuff with Wesker, but the rest of it was stupid and the on rails gimmick was balls as well. And 4 had to unceremoniously kill off Umbrella in one questionable cut scene 2 years previously, because Capcom just got too stupid and lazy to do it the right way. They could have even made an initial Revelations game about how the end of Umbrella came about, and that would have been way more satisfying than what we got in the long run.
 

Hel

Goddess of the Dead
Premium
I'll never understand why they stuffed the downfall of Umbrella into a stew of badly remembered previous games that isn't even available on the main gaming platforms... You'd think something like that was important enough to justify its own numbered title. And it would have been a great way of bringing all the heroes from previous games together for the first time.

Speaking of characters, it has always annoyed me that they keep bringing in new faces instead of working with the ones they have, some of which didn't even get a proper send-off. That's one thing I would have done differently, for example by making Rebecca or Barry Chris's partner in RE5, rather than yet another newbie. Or better yet, Chris and Jill as the playable protagonists, so they can finish off Wesker together as many fans hoped, with Claire being Bird Lady instead.

If I had it my way, RE4 would have been about finishing off Umbrella, RE5 about finishing off Wesker, and since I said I wanted everybody working together for the former, the ending of RE4 could even have shown Claire's apparent death, because honestly, what happened to Jill in the actual storyline pretty much came out of nowhere.
 

Springhosen

Kahnum of Outworld
I honestly would have had Resident Evil 4 been a Jill/Chris game with them in Russia taking down Umbrella. Like the others, I'll never understand why Capcom brushed the fall of Umbrella under the rug and gave us that abbreviated scenario in Umbrella Chronicles.

But with Capcom I guess we should just be glad that they decided to throw us any kind of bone at all.:rolleyes:
 
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UniqTeas

G Virus Experiment
The ultimate RE4 would have been taking down the main Umbrella HQ in "Europe". I don't know if the game specifies where this is. We know that Claire was in the Parisian Umbrella HQ, but we have no idea if that is the main HQ or just a different location.

The game would have brought Leon Kennedy back to complete his famous RE2 ending line... "It's time for US to take down Umbrella." Chris and Claire are also playable characters. Rather than just having the two scenarios, we play 3 scenarios that tie together. Claire interacts with both Chris and Leon throughout her campaign. In this RE4, we get the final Chris/Wesker confrontation instead of the way it went down in RE5. We also get some more Leon/Ada storyline.

I am too tired to continue thinking about what next, but I did have a drawing of a Nemesis 2.0 for this kind of game back in the day.
 

Wesker90

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The ultimate RE4 would have been taking down the main Umbrella HQ in "Europe". I don't know if the game specifies where this is. We know that Claire was in the Parisian Umbrella HQ, but we have no idea if that is the main HQ or just a different location.

The game would have brought Leon Kennedy back to complete his famous RE2 ending line... "It's time for US to take down Umbrella." Chris and Claire are also playable characters. Rather than just having the two scenarios, we play 3 scenarios that tie together. Claire interacts with both Chris and Leon throughout her campaign. In this RE4, we get the final Chris/Wesker confrontation instead of the way it went down in RE5. We also get some more Leon/Ada storyline.

I am too tired to continue thinking about what next, but I did have a drawing of a Nemesis 2.0 for this kind of game back in the day.
Agreed, I would have preferred the fall of Umbrella in RE4 rather than Capcom spend it on a forgettable side entry to the series.

All four original characters should be ideal for this scenario and tbf I think the series would have had a reasonable send off this way if you were to include Wesker as the primary Antagonist and Final boss fight.
 

PinkHerb

Healing Item
Well, if I had my way...

RE4- Umbrella would still be around, but it is clear that it is on its last legs, but dear old Oswell makes one last grab to try finding the elixir of immortality. He has discovered Las Plaga in Spain possibly years ago and studies it, infecting the villagers and turning them to loyal servants. He takes control of the Alpha Plaga, and does regain a bit of his strength, but discovers that he needs to consume the flesh of certain people to make him more powerful and Ashley is one of the chosen ones who has the right genes to make him stronger. He has been having these chosen ones kidnapped all over the world, and of course, since the president's daughter is kidnapped, Leon is a bad enough dude to save her. Meanwhile; Chris, Jill, and possibly Barry or Claire are on the hunt for Spencer and so is Wesker. They have a lead that he is somewhere in...Spain? England? Idk...and the trio teams up with Leon while Wesker is in the shadows. Sergei could be the penultimate boss I guess...and Spencer...hmmm well, I would say that he has munched on enough people to become a powerful last boss. When he is defeated, it is he the end of him and Umbrella. I would say that there would be three campaigns, and they would be single player. Leon would be on his mission to save Ashley, Chris, Jill and Barry/Claire would have dedicated sections, and Wesker would be like Ada in Separate Ways and work from behind the scenes. I know this may seem a lot, but its what I thought of.

RE5- Chris would still be the main character and is actually doing this by himself! Chris has two missions: Jill/Claire/Rebecca/or whoever went to investigate the rumor of a new virus, but he has been a long time since anyone has heard from them, and Chris has to go and find them. His other mission is to take over the investigation once he is thrown into a Biohazard situation. I'm not sure if it should be the return of Las Plagas or something else, but either way Wesker is behind it. Tricell would still be the villains as he has convinced Excella to use the power and resources to help him with his plans. There are parts where the player would fight Wesker, largely unchanged from canon except Sheva isn't there to help you. Also no mind controlled Jill or anything like that. They would probably get rescued either early or late in the game and act as support. The finale will not happen in a volcano, even by RE standards, what happened there was just so goofy to behold. I...honestly have no clue where the final battle would take place, but it will mark the end of Wesker. Happy Ending!

Umbrella Chronicles-Okay so, this will still be a rail shooter, retelling certain events, only it obviously won't tell the downfall of Umbrella. Sergei is still the main villain, and Chris and Jill found his hideout in Russia creating ...idk Talos? Instead of getting killed, he manage to escape for RE4. Wesker's bossfight would be Ivan infected with Las Plaga, which he didn't know about yet. Along the way, Sergei would've sacrificed the Red Queen so Wesker wouldn't have it, but Wesker found something that he missed...the whereabouts of Spencer.

Darkside Chronicles: Yes, believe it or not. I do have a idea for this. Its still a rail shooter and it remains largely the same, but major changes in Operation Javier. Jack Krauser does not exits at all, and would be replaced by Ark Thomson who happens to be there as he is hired as a private investigator to look for someone's missing daughter. They both met up on Javier's private island that he uses for a personal fortress and smuggling ring since he is a powerful man. He is still kidnapping girls for his ill daughter Manuela, and she ran away still. Ada is on the island as well, and when she meets with Leon, he is genuinely shocked and surprised that she is alive instead of being indifferent to her return when he thought she was dead all this time!! This would lead into the RE2 segment which once again, remains unchanged. Leon and Ark meets with Manuela and use her as a guide to infiltrate the compound. T-Veronica is still in use though and Manny is carrying a new mutation of the virus. That is why Ada is here, for her blood as sample. This will also lead into the Code Veronica portion, same as above. Ada isn't the only one looking for the Veronica Virus, Hunk has been sent in to retrieve it as well for Umbrella as a final chance to get it, and could battle Ada for it, but he lost...or did he? Anyway in Ark's quest, it could either be that he found some of the girls and manage to escape with them, or find that they are dead. The Javier fight...instead of being a humongous plant spider and on an invisible time limit, he becomes a stronger version of his infected wife and Ada could lend a hand by doing what she does best...tossing Leon and Ark a Rocket Launcher lol. The day is save, Manuela(and the surviving girls) leave he island, Ada has the sample to wants and bring it to Wesker. Hunk could have arrive on the island in the aftermath if not in the main game and takes a mutated sample from Javier or the wife.

Revelations 1- Right, here are the changes. Barry would be Jill's Partner while Parker is with Raymond. Terragrigia is not a Aqua city, but it still is a coastal city that was hit by terrorism before it was destroyed, Keith and Quint are not playable, none of this Dante inferno quoting. The BSAA and the FBC are in a joint operation against Jack Norman's organization I guess called Eclipse or Surge instead of their original name. Barry and Jill are paired up with FBC agents Parker and Raymond to investigate the Queen Zenobia when they believe that Jack and his men has taken over the ship. Chris and Jessica meanwhile are exploring the ruins of Terragrigia when they notice suspicious activities. In this version, Jack uses the T-Abyss as a tool of revenge against the world for killing his longtime friend Oswell Spencer, as maybe he would be the man's sword of vengeance. He secretly teamed up with Morgan Lansdale who supplied him with the virus, and after the Terragrigia panic, left Jack and his men to die. He lives, and hid in the ruins of the city with the last of his men and plan for resurgence. Raymond and Jessica would be plants by Lansdale to find any secrets on his involvement and destroy them, but the both of them are triple agents. Morgan wanted to strengthen the FBC, and used Jack and Terrigrigia as stepping stones. The characters meet up with (possible minus Jessica and Raymond) and the found Jack and boss fight ensued. They found Morgan is responsible and sent to jail, and happy ending!

Revelations 2- Here are some changes, There will be no Moira as a playable character, nor Barry(I'm sorry), None of the stupid ending choices(It makes be mad the way that the handled it), No T-Phobos, and Natalia not being the survivor of the Terragrigia panic. The game would take place in either take place in 2011 still, or a bit before RE6. There are three main characters in this, and I will still keep COOP in this one, it will have the same function in the original. Claire would still keep her role as the offense, Natalia would be the support and warning sign, and there is Steve Burnside! That is right, he is a playable character!! He is in a single campaign, being both Claire and Natalia at the same time. The opening plays the same minus Moira being there or she simply wasn't kidnapped at the party. Claire and others are taken by a group of strange men lead by a mind controlled Steve or Neil wearing a mask, and is taken to...hmm, maybe an Island still or an isolated part of the world like Siberia idk. Neil would still be retaining his role as a traitor but he would have different motives. Anyway, Claire would wake up and is freed from her cell, finding herself in a facility, and is infected with a new stain of T-Veronica. Alex is still the Overseer, and has given everyone a chance to get rid of the virus if they could survive long enough to get the antidote before the time limit expires and kills them. She meets with Natalia early on and takes the role of protecting her, and also meets up with the other members. I they they would survive a lot longer and she would still have that crush on Neil, but that fades over time when Steve enters the picture. Some time after Code Veronica, Albert kept his promise and revived Steve back to life, but not before taking his blood and handing him over to Alex when she was tasked by Spencer to look for Immortality. She still abandoned him, and used Steve to improve the virus for her own plans and she needs the experiments, but needs Steve and Natalia most of all. The girl would be Alex's Daughter(either by blood or adoption) and the plan would either go 2 ways. 1) Uses the virus to make herself a 'Goddess' or 2)Uses her daughter as her Avatar and use the 15 year process along with a mind controlled Steve and together would rule as God and Goddess of the world and is the puppet master. Neil is Landsdale or Jack Norman's son...or apprentice wanting a mixture of power and revenge, and Alex promised them both if he helps her with the plan. He does so, but his jealousy of Steve gets the better of him, and is betrayed because of it, and lead to his downfall. Alex is still the final boss, and it could go two ways: 1)Still that ugly pimple monster, or becomes like Alexia and have 2 other forms. Either way, she is defeated, and Steve is reunited with Claire or he could choose to be a lone wolf but promise her that they will meet again. Natalia...umm...she will still live, but i'm not sure what will happen after the credits lol


RE6- Few things removed from this version. There will no Jake Muller(for obvious reasons), No Neo-Umbrella(kinda), No Fake Ada, No C-Virus, No Helena or her sister, none of the sliding/rolling button nonsense, and no war-torn plotlines. Rebecca is one of the main characters, and she coops with a new guy(Yes, we are going there) as this new dude is a member of the BSAA. Becca is studying a new virus that is popping up, and the BSAA hired her to help make a cure. She is targeted by a terrorist organization, and the NG(new guy) is protecting her while she figures it out. Sherry is sill a playable character, and she is teamed up with Leon as they are still government agents trying to take down this organization after they are responsible for various attacks. I would still keep Simmons as the badguy, and instead of killing the president(He's not in the game at all) He kills an important guy, a high ranking member of 'The Family' that wants to expose their secret society, and Simmons had him killed in the guise of a terrorist attack. He created this new virus as he was inspired by William Birkin to chase his own destiny and he has been using this virus to test what it can do, but secretly wants to take control of 'The Family'. Sherry still has her healing factor and Simmons has turned his infatuations on her and wants to turn her to his side. The only problem with this plan is Leon, Rebecca, and the BSAA. No, his boss fight will not be the same bullcrap of him taking a crap ton of new forms to make us want to break the controller. It will be trimmed down to...two forms? One small, and the other is big. Replacing Carla is another guy/gal who is working for Simmons, leader of the organization as he/she is tasked with making an ultimate weapon to keep the order of the world. He is also given an assignment to kill Rebecca as she is he closest person he knows that could make a cure for the virus. Simmons for Sherry and Leon, and the Head Honcho for Rebecca and NG. The Ultimate weapon is Haos, but is very different from what we got. The four characters would have to work together to beat it, and they win! Rebecca gets the cure from Sherry's blood and happy ending!

RE7- I am unsure if I want to keep the First Person thing still...i'll decide later lol. Anyway, I wanna make more changes. Things will stay the same, but the change will come once the player chooses Zoe instead of Mia. She and Ethan escapes on the boat and instead of killing Zoe, she will be spared and playable and would have to rescue Ethan from Evelyn. She would be on the cruise ship, using stealth to sneak pass the enemies and being plagued by the little girl. At the end when she does find Ethan, she would calcify but not dead as she would still be alive for the DLC. As for Mia....I guess she still could be alive i guess...I don't really care all that much about her. Meanwhile-Not a Hero!! Instead of Chris, Hunk would be the main character as an agent for Blue Umbrella, it makes more sense because he wants to redeem himself, just like Blue Umbrella for their past deeds. It plays largely the same, him going in to try to capture Lucas and try to rescue the other agents. He whoop's Lucas' Candy Ass and all is well. He also replaces Chris in the End of Zoe DLC because it makes sense!!


This is what I would do...i'm sorry if this is long. If you guys have any questions, suggestions or want to further the ideas I have, feel free to do so!
 
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PinkHerb

Healing Item
Ok I have another Idea...Its Outbreak since it's technically canon

Outbreak #1

Scenario 1-This is the beginning, everyone is here when the outbreak started, although when Yoko is seen on screen, she would have her default outfit on instead of her Umbrella uniform and just went into the bathroom. Those who are playing as her will be treated with taking pill as she is suffering from sudden flashes, making her take medication. That's when the thing happens, Poor Will get's a chunk of his neck torn of by the zombie...and just maybe this is the time for a tutorial? Maybe not, but this is where the characters fight the single zombie to get a feel of the game, and that is when we begin it proper. We would go out in the streets to find Choas, the Outbreak has begun and the players are following a stream of people running from the danger and moving into alleys. If they carry Bob up to this point, then it would be the same as the original whether he sacrifice himself, or be zombified. They would meet up at a police check point, and I guess they would be inside of a safe house as they try to come up with a plan! The final boss would be a gauntlet, instead of on the streets where a ton of zombies just pop out of nowhere, the zombies would attack the safe house, and would have to survive until they are picked up.

Scenario 2- The players reach to City hall, it is used as a extraction point and they want in, and this is probably where they meet with the mayor; Michael Warren. I think he would ask you to do side quests, and in one of them, you found find evidence about Umbrella and also about the underground lab. The Boss fight would be...IDk, a Giant Spider? During the fight, the Mayor took the helicopter and flew out of the city, leaving them behind.

Scenario 3-Its basically Below The Freezing Point, although I would change a few thing.The meeting with Yoko and Monica, Yoko would pick up a key card instead of her having one. In my opinion, the original scene didn't make any sense, including Yoko's involvement. In my version, Yoko worked in NEST two years ago and is the survivor of that 'terrible incident'. The guys at Umbrella then erased her memories of the incident, and of her ever working for them. It would make sense for them getting rid of evidence of that, but would still have her stuff in he system, and Yoko players would gain access to certain areas without keys. Plus, throughout the scenario, they would experience brief flashes of her memories of this place, just like with Alyssa during Flashback in File 2. Anyway, they get on the platform, Monica's chest buster turns into the G-Muntant. After it's defeat, the scenario ends with the train ride and the train takes them to....

Scenario 4- The Incineration Disposal Plant P-12A! They would leave the train to enter the plant, and that is when they met with a scientist as he is trying to find the Daylight cure. The player learns about Daylight and since it isn't here, they learn that about it being hidden at the University. Boss fight at the end is an Elder Crimson Head or a giant bug. The thing kills the scientist, but they do instruct he survivors to the university for the cure.

Scenario 5-It's at the Raccoon University and Dr Muller is there. He is a rogue Umbrella scientist held up in his lab and is in contact with a mysterious figure(Could be Wesker or someone else.). He knows that the UBCS are after him, and he decides to use his ultimate creation; Thanatos to kill them. The players wander the university and it is the same still, finding the V-Poison and P-Base, and taking blood samples from Thanatos to make the cure. If Yoko is in the group, then there will be a special cut scene with her and Muller. He recognize her and explains everything, that it was he that suppressed her memory, that he worked with her in the NEST, and about that 'terrible incident'. He tells her everything! He also tells reveals to her that a rescue helicopter is on its way, and begs her to come with him...but gets shot by Nikolov and the place is about to self destruct. If she isn't, then he would talk to the players...and then gets shot. Time limit starts and they have to escape while the Tyrant in on their tail. After that, a rescue chopper can be seen, the survivors chase it, but Thanatos evolves as the final boss. Its still the same and so are the endings.


Its pretty rough, i know.
 
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