Nick Springthorpe.
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What would you do to fix the Resident Evil 3 Remake?
Resident Evil 3 Remake How would you fix the Resident Evil 3 Remake?
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Fishcakes
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I could make a massive rant on what I would want changed. But I'll keep it short and sweet and say, keep it faithful to the original, so many missed opportunities to grow characters, create more of a story, etc etc. that would be the main thing
However the game was fine, not as much effort was put into it as it deserved but I was still a relatively good game
However the game was fine, not as much effort was put into it as it deserved but I was still a relatively good game
ToCool74
Veteran Member
Agree with all this^^^ But I also would add a truly random and no scripted Nemesis roaming that open ended environment.
Hardware
Well-Known Member
I reckon at least a few larger areas where Nemesis can stalk you (and thus become a more oppressive presence) would be nice...something like Mr.X in RE2make but with a larger map and more puzzles, quests to solve. Not sure how it would work without a few safe rooms though. Then I guess we should be able to explore the clock tower - I was never too fond of that location (save for the room leading to the chapel - really liked the design), but most people love it to death so it should be there, even though it could be shorter IMHO. The hospital section should remain as it is - it's a huge improvement over the original (save for the stupid "protect the entrance hall" section from RE4). I did hate NEST 2 as I really liked the waste disposal facility from the original - it was a good change of style from the 3rd acts of RE1&2, where you always end up in a lab. Don't know about the cemetery and the Grave Digger - I always found the boss fight to be pretty annoying (same as the Gulp Worm from C:V).
...above all, I'd very much like to see some actual use for the sound suppressor you can pick from Nemesis. I was actually expecting it to have more weight in the gameplay: in RE2make, Mr.X is lured by gunshots. I was seriously hoping Nemesis would've operated the same way, making the suppressed Glock 17 vital to take out zombies without luring the big guy.
Actually, I thought that Nemesis dropping items this time around was stupid. You cannot retrieve anything from Mr.X in RE2make (unlike OG RE2) and that's one of the things that make him scarier: there's nothing to gain by fighting him, so you'd better run. There was no point in making the T103's nastier brother something you actually want to fight with the new style created with the remake of 2. Nemesis pulling a briefcase out of his ass also looked so stupid with 2020 graphics - that's the kind of stuff games from the '90s could do because they looked less realistic.
...but this is all wishful thinking - Capcom is actually pretty pleased with RE:3, as it sold enough for the money they spent on it. It's very unlikely they'll be updating it in any way.
...above all, I'd very much like to see some actual use for the sound suppressor you can pick from Nemesis. I was actually expecting it to have more weight in the gameplay: in RE2make, Mr.X is lured by gunshots. I was seriously hoping Nemesis would've operated the same way, making the suppressed Glock 17 vital to take out zombies without luring the big guy.
Actually, I thought that Nemesis dropping items this time around was stupid. You cannot retrieve anything from Mr.X in RE2make (unlike OG RE2) and that's one of the things that make him scarier: there's nothing to gain by fighting him, so you'd better run. There was no point in making the T103's nastier brother something you actually want to fight with the new style created with the remake of 2. Nemesis pulling a briefcase out of his ass also looked so stupid with 2020 graphics - that's the kind of stuff games from the '90s could do because they looked less realistic.
...but this is all wishful thinking - Capcom is actually pretty pleased with RE:3, as it sold enough for the money they spent on it. It's very unlikely they'll be updating it in any way.
Ikawaru
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I actually liked the City Park location, arguably even more than the Clock Tower so they should have brought that back as well...and made it bigger! Grave Digger boss is easy with acid rounds.
Absolutely agree on the suppressor, and you should also be able to craft subsonic ammunition to make it even quieter, but a bit less powerful. With a Glock 19 which is a 9mm automatic, you can reduce the noise of the gunshot from 160db to as low as 125db with the right suppressor and ammunition. I mean it's still kinda loud but way less loud. I won't get into the details but the absolute quietest suppressed firearm is probably a bolt action .22 rifle, which you can get as low as 108db which is as close to "Hollywood quiet" as you're gonna get, but a suppressed .22 is best suited for assassins and not highly trained B.O.W. killers
Agree on Mr. X, he was done ingeniously in RE2R, even better than the original, those footsteps! So yes, making a more open world city where you can give the player binoculars to help hide from Nemesis with nothing to gain from his aggro would have awesome and would have added a layer of stealth element into the game.
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Hardware
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Yeah, I hadn't thought about subsonic ammo, but, considering the ammo-crafting mechanic, it would've been a nice touch...but probably too technical and realistic for the average player. I do like that in DAYMARE: 1998 you have to reload individual magazines (picking up ammo boxes isn't enough), but I have no idea how mainstream players reacted to it - same with the fast-vs-slow reloading that can make you drop the clip (I think they got that idea from MGS2 and its magazine-recycling mechanic). Also, I don't see Capcom doing that much research into how actual firearms work - Hollywood logic seems to be fine by them. Yeah, a suppressed bolt-action .22 LR is very quiet because the chamber remains locked until you eject the spent cartridge: it's the same principle behind the Beretta XM9 by Knights Armaments (the basis for MGS2's fictional tranquilizer gun), which has a locking mechanism preventing it from cycling...and it's incredibly quiet (with subsonic ammo and fresh wipes) even though it's a 9mm.Absolutely agree on the suppressor, and you should also be able to craft subsonic ammunition to make it even quieter, but a bit less powerful. With a Glock 19 which is a 9mm automatic, you can reduce the noise of the gunshot from 160db to as low as 125db with the right suppressor and ammunition. I mean it's still kinda loud but way less loud. I won't get into the details but the absolute quietest suppressed firearm is probably a bolt action .22 rifle, which you can get as low as 108db which is as close to "Hollywood quiet" as you're gonna get, but a suppressed .22 is best suited for assassins and not highly trained B.O.W. killers
The same principle (locked chamber preventing sound from escaping) is also what makes the Russian Mosin-Nagant M1895 the only revolver that can truly be suppressed.
UniqTeas
G Virus Experiment
There are 1,000 minor tweaks that could be made to improve the game, but here are a few of my top ones:
-Give Nemesis his tentacle form for the Clock Tower battle. Seriously, his dog beast form is a great addition, but you face him twice in the same form with very similar mechanics. Since he is BASICALLY the only boss in the game, he could have had a little more variety to his battles.
-Bring back the Gravedigger along with the entire graveyard/park location. This game needed more variety in locations and bosses and keeping the original bosses is the MINIMUM they could have done.
-Let us explore MORE of Raccoon City. I feel like this is the biggest misstep in the game. We want to see and explore more of the city we have loved for so long. They gave us a few extra forgettable sightseeing locations and they cut out so many of the great iconic locations from the series. No park, no clock tower, no newspaper office - there was just so much missing and they failed to replace them in a satisfactory way at all even if they DID cut these places.
-Let Jill go to the RPD. Carlos could have his side section in a separate area, but Jill has so many connections to the RPD. She could have had conversations with Marvin and Chiefs Irons and we could explore more of her past through her desk and memories of the place.
-Give Nemesis his tentacle form for the Clock Tower battle. Seriously, his dog beast form is a great addition, but you face him twice in the same form with very similar mechanics. Since he is BASICALLY the only boss in the game, he could have had a little more variety to his battles.
-Bring back the Gravedigger along with the entire graveyard/park location. This game needed more variety in locations and bosses and keeping the original bosses is the MINIMUM they could have done.
-Let us explore MORE of Raccoon City. I feel like this is the biggest misstep in the game. We want to see and explore more of the city we have loved for so long. They gave us a few extra forgettable sightseeing locations and they cut out so many of the great iconic locations from the series. No park, no clock tower, no newspaper office - there was just so much missing and they failed to replace them in a satisfactory way at all even if they DID cut these places.
-Let Jill go to the RPD. Carlos could have his side section in a separate area, but Jill has so many connections to the RPD. She could have had conversations with Marvin and Chiefs Irons and we could explore more of her past through her desk and memories of the place.
Ridley Lockhart
Well-Known Member
I concur. Just add fixing Jill...who looks like The Quiet Man. Dafuq, and sure maybe a miniskirt and tube top isn't the most practical outfit for a zombie apocalypse but they gave her the 'Lara Croft treatment' and changed her iconic style from the OG. Now if i want to compliment it at all, i enjoyed the beginning being in her apartment in which you could see how she was living with the PTSD post Mansion Incident, dealing with Chief Irons and all that Corruption, Umbrella, etc. And i thought the UBCS members were did well. Gameplay was fine. That's about where the compliments end.
And while i can whine about it, cause technically i don't HAVE to play it. But of course im going to, and it left a fould taste in my mouth.
pa-pappys8675309
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I'd say it could have been longer, more scenarios. I don't mind missing the clocktower, I remember it as a pita but I also remember being surprised and a little relieved it was the end lol. I tried to avoid walkthroughs and still do nowadays unless I'm really stuck on what to do or a puzzle is killing me, so the end is usually still a surprise and this one was too, but I didn't feel rewarded or victorious lol.
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Ikawaru
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A little bit off topic but have you played 'Remnant 2'? I gotta say, I usually manage to solve puzzles in games even if it takes me a while*, but the puzzles in this game are extremely hard and make me feel stupid, and I have an above average IQ. Luckily they are optional and are not mandatory to complete the game but yikes they really went crazy here, unless of course there is a certain stigma within the game that I overlooked and can't quite grasp that other players feel more at home at, as opposed to most RE games where I understand the context of the game completely.
*A shining example here is 'Ebola 3', the games puzzles are about at my max cognitive capacity and with time, managed to solve them all on my own, except for the very last puzzle, which I could not solve on my own due to bad localization issues (The native language in the games is Russian and the English translation wasn't the greatest). The same thing happened with RE1 1996 with the Star Crest puzzle, poor English text in the game made the puzzle confusing and it was very difficult to find the solution in the 1990's especially as a young kid with no internet.
Teen Tyrant
The Master Debater
I would remove it from existence, as well as the other two. No need to fix it if there’s nothing there to fix that never needed to be there anyway. The 2002 REmake is a different story, it can stay.