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Airaku
Airaku
No it doesn't. It's good but I prefer the others over it. I need to replay it as it is the by far the most complicated game in the series in terms of narrative. **** is out of whack.
Cheer
Cheer
I really wish that they would release MGS3 on PC. Its by far my favorite MGS game in the series.
Airaku
Airaku
Really? Over 1 and 4? :O Well 3 is pretty damn good. It also has the simplest story in the series and is the best starting point for new players. It's straight forward and not overly plot twisty. Which is why I like the others a little more. Plus Solid Snake > Big Boss. No competition xD
Cheer
Cheer
Yeah. the story is very touching and filled with emotion. Plus if big boss didn't do what he did in MGS3 then the patriot won't be formed and no les enfant terrible project. Which means there won't be a Solid Snake. :D
Airaku
Airaku
All the MGS games are very emotional. I found MGS3 to be the least emotional. It doesn't even touch MGS4 which makes you cry, or the feeling of being upset and betrayed in Phantom Pain, or the emotions of MGS1 and the finale of MGS2. MGS4 made me cry hard. Like no other game has, and few movies and I'm an emotional person.
Airaku
Airaku
That's true, but it's not at the same time ;) Because Kojima could have written any way he wanted to have Solid Snake. He came first in terms of creation and therefor must have some origin story. There is, and there will always be Solid Snake :3
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Cheer
Wait so getting betrayed by your mentor who you see as your mother figure and being forced to kill her isn't emotional. The only emotional thing thing about MGS1 was Sniper Wolf's death. As for MGS2 i have no idea about it. and MGS4 one tissue box wasn't enough. Well technically they both came at the same time.
Airaku
Airaku
What both came out at the same time? Whaaaat? MGS4 was 2008. I'm confused.

Sniper Wolf's death was sad, but there were other moments. Like finding out Master Miller died. Meryl getting sniped was painful to watch. MGS3 is emotional don't get me wrong. They all are. I just find that it was missing a bit of the verity the other games had. It's still amazing and one of the best games out there :)
Cheer
Cheer
Oh i was talking about Big Boss and Solid Snake. you said that solid snake came first in terms of creation. but in MG1. we are introduced to Big Boss at the beginning of the game. Meryl getting sniped wasn't that painful. However sniping the mouse in The Twin Snake was a torture. and finding out that Master Miller is dead was an "Oh no he is dead, ok let's move on" moment.
Airaku
Airaku
I know what you mean :p One in timeline the other in appearance. I meant more so as playability and who they are. Big Boss had no sense of heroism in the originals. I thought the Miller part was wow. That's the one of the few people who cared for Snake at the time.
Airaku
Airaku
As for Meryl? Haha in TTS that is one of the most brutal scenes in the series. That was ****ing crazy. Then there was the hints from Liquid that she was raped. It was always assumed to be Ocelot but we know now it wasn't. It could have been Liquid but some evidence suggests it may have actually been Sniper Wolf who did as she had a motive and reason behind it.
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Cheer
There is no such thing as heroism in war. People out there they bleed, they die. and those who survive. They'll always have nightmares. I never really liked Miller and MGSV gave me more reasons to hate him.

Oh please. Meryl getting shot isn't brutal. seeing Grey fox losing his arm and then get crushed by Rex. that is brutal. I always though Ocelot did it. because he is very touchy.
Airaku
Airaku
I'm so glad you noticed that about war. That is exactly why I like Solid snake more. The games are an anti-war message. He's completely against war where Big Boss was for it. Hell, he admitted it himself clear as day. Personally I liked Millar and you cannot blame him for what he did in MGSV when you think about it.
Airaku
Airaku
At the end, even though in anger. He saw the dark path Big Boss went though. That's why he backed off. Which is why while Ocelot did not agree. He mutely respected his decision.

As for Meryl. I guess we gotta disagree on that. I found that part to be one of the most brutal points in the game. That was pure torture and Sniper Wolf took pleasure in it.
Airaku
Airaku
ure it was nothing compared to the hallways scene with Greyfox and there are some other moments, but I'd say it's worse than the ending with GF. I think part of it is because I really like Meryl so it effect me. I also really like Sniper Wolf too ironically xD

As for the rape. Honestly, after getting to know Ocelot. I can't see him doing that.
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Cheer
Solid Snake Enjoys going to war and fight as much as Big Boss and maybe even more. Even Liquid showed Solid how much Solid enjoys killing.

Big Boss wanted to live in peace. but everyone kept pushing him. As for shooting Meryl, Sniper Wolf didn't enjoy it. She doesn't kill for sport.

Well at least Sniper Wolf didn't kill Meryl and called her names. So i'd say what happened to Grey Fox was more brutal.
Cheer
Cheer
Well if you remember in MGS 3 Ocelot was a little touchy. when he grabbed Eva as a hostage. and if i remember correctly he did say that he will enjoy his time with the girl if you give up the torture in MGS 1.
Airaku
Airaku
I gotta disagree with Solid Snake. After the events of the first MGS. He completely changed his ways and his views of the world. This is repeatedly made clear. Big Boss's addiction game later in life and kind of in a sense died with him. Where Solid was more or less born with it and redeemed it after the Shadow Moses events. Which is another huge polar opposites with their characters.
Airaku
Airaku
As for Sniper Wolf. She sure seemed like she enjoyed it in TTS. Her enjoyment came more or less in her desire to see Solid suffer for killing Saladin (Big Boss). Which is part of the reason the theory was that she had Meryl raped.
Airaku
Airaku
Ocelot did touch Eva in MGS3 but it came off more as a Kojima joke than anything. At least it did to me every playthrough. What Volgin did to Eva was real though. A display of power and he's obsessed with dominating people.

Meryl's rape can be open to interpretation. There is no proof to say who did it. Back then it was sensible to think it was Ocelot. Now I just can't see it at all anymore. It's not his style imo
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