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What are you thinking? (Part 2)

Romero

Her royal court joker
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I feel like there's been more spam than usual here as of late.
I hate these one-post-wonders who just smear their **** products in the forums.
I'll discuss it with Steve, this can't continue much longer. Email confirmation is not turned on atm because there was a problem with genuine members not receiving the email. I've been away for a couple of days and the first thing I had to do now was to ban 60 accounts.

Many accounts have something in common, be it language, name similarity, or other things. It has the signature of a botnet, a few people are using thousands (if not millions) of infected computers to spam.

This is a global problem, and the day the United Nations decide to send out a team to seek and destroy the people behind this, I will sign up. Spammers are the terrorists of the Internet. I won't shoot their heads off, I'll shoot their arms off.
 

Springhosen

Kahnum of Outworld
Knightfall seems to be moving super duper fast. Like so fast I'm wondering if it's going to be axed after season one or if it's going to even be interesting after season one...
 

Hel

Goddess of the Dead
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CT: The day I came to the conclusion that I must be cursed, I played a video game about a family curse. I had this game on my computer for quite a while, but somehow never got around to playing it, and I didn't even know it was about a curse. Strange that I happened to play it now of all times, as if it was a response to my thoughts. Does this mean that my suspicion is true, or is it a higher power's way of telling me that curses only exist in fictional stories? We may never know. But comparing my supposed curse to the one depicted in the game, I will (somewhat) happily keep mine, thank you very much.
 

blivvy

Master of unlocking...
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CT: The day I came to the conclusion that I must be cursed, I played a video game about a family curse. I had this game on my computer for quite a while, but somehow never got around to playing it, and I didn't even know it was about a curse. Strange that I happened to play it now of all times, as if it was a response to my thoughts. Does this mean that my suspicion is true, or is it a higher power's way of telling me that curses only exist in fictional stories? We may never know. But comparing my supposed curse to the one depicted in the game, I will (somewhat) happily keep mine, thank you very much.
Sorry, I was just reminded of this scene from The Mummy :p
 

BioLence

Well-Known Member
CT: The day I came to the conclusion that I must be cursed, I played a video game about a family curse. I had this game on my computer for quite a while, but somehow never got around to playing it, and I didn't even know it was about a curse. Strange that I happened to play it now of all times, as if it was a response to my thoughts. Does this mean that my suspicion is true, or is it a higher power's way of telling me that curses only exist in fictional stories? We may never know. But comparing my supposed curse to the one depicted in the game, I will (somewhat) happily keep mine, thank you very much.

Hmmm. Stay away from everything that makes you feel or think negatively, im serious. Forget about that curse immediately please, F that curse, i repeat, F THAT CURSE. Lets go have a drink.
 
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Hel

Goddess of the Dead
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Hmmm. Stay away from everything that makes you feel or think negatively, im serious. Forget about that curse immediately please, F that curse, i repeat, F THAT CURSE. Lets go have a drink.

Too bad I can't just stay away from work and still earn enough money to survive in the world of the living, no matter how much I'd prefer going for a drink with you instead. It's not just work that causes those negative feelings, but staying away from it would at least help...

I'm struggling with trying to decide if I want to further my education or not. I just don't want to waste my time and money (mainly money) and not have a guaranteed career afterwards... Kind of like how things turned out after I finally earned a bachelors. -_-

When I started my last degree, students and professors alike were romanticising it and telling me how many doors it would open, but it turned out completely useless, and adding a master would have been nothing but a waste of one or two more years. I really should have taken a look at the job market before getting into this nonsense. What does it say in your case? If there's anything interesting you can do with your current education, go for it! It may not be there anymore a few years from now.
 

Loki

The Trickster
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I'm struggling with trying to decide if I want to further my education or not. I just don't want to waste my time and money (mainly money) and not have a guaranteed career afterwards... Kind of like how things turned out after I finally earned a bachelors. -_-

The main reason I did my masters was because I wanted to get back into the field that I really enjoyed. After my bachelors I ended up in a job that required no experience, was pretty mundane and was in a completely different field. After applying to a bunch of different jobs and going to interviews, some of them specifically saying they would prefer to hire someone with a masters, I thought why not. I’m already £30,000 in debt, what’s another £10,000? xD

If I want to go into research in the future, a masters will be necessary anyway.
 

La Femme Fatale

The Queen
Moderator
I'm struggling with trying to decide if I want to further my education or not. I just don't want to waste my time and money (mainly money) and not have a guaranteed career afterwards... Kind of like how things turned out after I finally earned a bachelors. -_-
I had the hardest time finding a job after graduating with my BA - the only thing I could find was a slightly more senior position in the industry I was already working in and nothing to do with what I studied. I really didn't want to put the money down for a Masters either, so instead I took 8 months and went to college to get a post-grad certificate in PR instead. Honestly, Star, best decision I ever made in terms of my education. There was significantly more emphasis on networking and the skills actually needed for getting into a career, and I wouldn't be in my current position now if I hadn't had the internship that was part of the program. I probably will return for a Masters in the future, but I'd be lying if I said it's not pretty darn nice to just be able to pocket most of my income and be well-positioned for buying a house next year instead of having another 10/15k bill to pay off.... plus the loss of income from not being able to work FT.

It's always best to do what's best for you - I don't know what your goals are so I don't want to dissuade you from higher education, but I do believe being able to develop the skills to network within your field and make connections, and getting a mentor(s) are honestly invaluable. And let's face it - there is some truth to the fact that the job market is becoming more about who you know and who those people know, rather than what's on your resume.
 

BioLence

Well-Known Member
And let's face it - there is some truth to the fact that the job market is becoming more about who you know and who those people know, rather than what's on your resume.

Not necessarily. My brother started working for Dell right after he graduated in international marketing and he only relied on himself to be where´s he at now. First in the states, later in Montpellier and now back in the states, he´s wealthy AF now and might stablish his own bussiness in socal, which would be ideal for me since i´m about done kissing despicable buns down here. I do find this country to be very ¨connections¨ heavy tho, which i´m not enjoying very much lol.
 

bSTAR_182

Sexually Active Member
The main reason I did my masters was because I wanted to get back into the field that I really enjoyed. After my bachelors I ended up in a job that required no experience, was pretty mundane and was in a completely different field. After applying to a bunch of different jobs and going to interviews, some of them specifically saying they would prefer to hire someone with a masters, I thought why not. I’m already £30,000 in debt, what’s another £10,000? xD

If I want to go into research in the future, a masters will be necessary anyway.

Too bad I can't just stay away from work and still earn enough money to survive in the world of the living, no matter how much I'd prefer going for a drink with you instead. It's not just work that causes those negative feelings, but staying away from it would at least help...



When I started my last degree, students and professors alike were romanticising it and telling me how many doors it would open, but it turned out completely useless, and adding a master would have been nothing but a waste of one or two more years. I really should have taken a look at the job market before getting into this nonsense. What does it say in your case? If there's anything interesting you can do with your current education, go for it! It may not be there anymore a few years from now.

I had the hardest time finding a job after graduating with my BA - the only thing I could find was a slightly more senior position in the industry I was already working in and nothing to do with what I studied. I really didn't want to put the money down for a Masters either, so instead I took 8 months and went to college to get a post-grad certificate in PR instead. Honestly, Star, best decision I ever made in terms of my education. There was significantly more emphasis on networking and the skills actually needed for getting into a career, and I wouldn't be in my current position now if I hadn't had the internship that was part of the program. I probably will return for a Masters in the future, but I'd be lying if I said it's not pretty darn nice to just be able to pocket most of my income and be well-positioned for buying a house next year instead of having another 10/15k bill to pay off.... plus the loss of income from not being able to work FT.

It's always best to do what's best for you - I don't know what your goals are so I don't want to dissuade you from higher education, but I do believe being able to develop the skills to network within your field and make connections, and getting a mentor(s) are honestly invaluable. And let's face it - there is some truth to the fact that the job market is becoming more about who you know and who those people know, rather than what's on your resume.

Oh yeah I can relate and agree with all of you. I settled on a psychology degree and while it does still interest me to some extent, I sometimes question just how much I would enjoy this field of work and what you deal with on a daily basis. After I graduated I was offered a full time job as a banker and though it doesn't directly pertain to my degree, it's a safe and fairly decent position and at times very interesting (better than any other job I've worked and the best company I've worked for) but I don't believe this is something I want to do for the rest of my life. I believe my degree did aid in me earning a higher wage here though. For now I'll keep it until I do find out what it is I really want out of a career- perhaps there are other avenues in banking that I could take. Some would probably be very surprised at how much people open up to bankers. I sometimes feel like I'm in some sort of sub-field of psychology as people randomly dump all of their troubles on you- and not just financial ones. In that way it does give me a sense of fulfillment to try and help those financially.

As for my education: I switched my major so many times and built up a decent amount of debt because I couldn't decide on anything that held my interest. Honestly the way I feel is like I take interest in so many things but have mastered none of them- which bothers me and makes me feel like I need to just let go and go fully into something- though what I don’t know. Filmmaking has always interested me but that of course isn’t ‘safe’ choice amongst other things. When it comes to schooling I know I do really miss science classes and wouldn't hate taking more of those again. The thought of doing actual research/field work really is appealing to me. Little human interaction sounds too good to be true right about now as I'm growing so tired of everyone’s BS and shallow/selfish behaviors. Which is kind of what social-networking is to some extent- 'what can you do for me?'
Obviously I see the importance of networking as @La Femme Fatale is absolutely right about most careers being more about who you know rather than what you know (or in some cases who you blow- ahem Hollywood) But it can get to a point where it is all so forced. Anyone who has ever worked with me knows that I'm not one for ass-kissing.
I have no qualms with being friendly/talkative with those who I think are good people, who actually care to get to know me/their employees- both managers andcoworkers alike. But if I don't think you're even remotely interested in your employees then I'm not going to bother going out of my way to converse with you outside of what is necessary, nor bring you coffee 'just cause'. Unfortunately and maybe even deservingly it has cost me some job promotions in the past- even when I know I get in there and do my job and do it well.
 
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Springhosen

Kahnum of Outworld
Unfortunately and maybe even deservingly it has cost me some job promotions in the past- even when I know I get in there and do my job and do it well.
Hate to jump in here, especially since I can't necessarily weigh in on anything pertaining to college and degrees, but I feel your pain on this one. I'm not one for tooting my own horn but I feel as though I have the capability to be doing more in life and to be further along than I am currently but I can't stand ass kissing and while I won't go out of my way to create problems in the workplace, if I don't care for you, management or not, you probably know it.

I'm just not good at hiding my feelings that way and I won't put on airs just because you're in charge. If I think you're an imbecile, I'll be respectful but on some level you'll be regarded as such and I find people don't take too kindly to that when searching for someone to move up in the world. They'd rather reward another idiot who has no idea what they're doing than actually promote someone who works hard and is efficient.

Don't you just love workplace politics?
 

La Femme Fatale

The Queen
Moderator
To be clear, I think there's quite a difference between kissing behind to get ahead and professional networking, and when I referred to networking, I meant the latter haha. And by networking I mean finding mentors and attending networking events with other professionals, etc. So for instance, when I was an unpaid intern at a firm, my boss put me in touch with a friend of his who worked in the field I wanted to work in and was a senior professional in that field. He invited me to his office and we had an hour long discussion on his experience and background and my experience and my background and he just gave me an endless slew of workplace advice, introduced me to his colleagues and became an important job reference for me. His advice led to me eventually getting a job, not that I knew him particularly. I had another friend/mentor who used to be my manager at one of my very first jobs, and when I was in interviews for my absolute dream job, I had texted him at very short notice to ask for some interviewing advice. He dropped everything to sit down with me for hours and go over every job interviewing trick in the book, and then at the end he thanked me for reaching out. I didn't end up getting that particular position, but both those guys were texting me with 'you'll get the next one!' messages and it meant a lot. I have another mentor, whom I met through a political networking event, who is my go-to for any sort of workplace advice. I've talked to her about workplace drama I've dealt with, and I went to her when I found out that my male colleague, who has less experience and less education than me, was making 15k more than I was. And she sat me down and said here's what you gotta do and gave me the pep talk that pushed me to do it (because man, asking for equal pay is terrifying, and I find as I get older, I'm getting less and less confrontational).

I do think people like helping where they can, especially when you're willing to work your lil' behind off - because I think, for the most part, everyone kinda feels like they've been there, you know? Most people have that time in their lives where they're sending out hundreds of resumes and no one's giving them a chance and the rejection can be so very disheartening. This is why I really don't think you really can boil down the value of networking to the question 'oh, what can you do for me?' because it's so much more than that. On the flip side, just two months ago, I had a university student reach out to me on LinkedIn and ask to meet for coffee - she wanted to get in my field, so of course I met with her. I mean, sure, it's flattering for a young person to reach out to you and want to pick your brain for tidbits of knowledge, but at the end of the day, my mentors have been so absurdly generous with their time and their kindness; I have *no* possible way to repay that kindness but by paying it forward. A practise of gratitude, I guess.
 

bSTAR_182

Sexually Active Member
To be clear, I think there's quite a difference between kissing behind to get ahead and professional networking, and when I referred to networking, I meant the latter haha. And by networking I mean finding mentors and attending networking events with other professionals, etc. So for instance, when I was an unpaid intern at a firm, my boss put me in touch with a friend of his who worked in the field I wanted to work in and was a senior professional in that field. He invited me to his office and we had an hour long discussion on his experience and background and my experience and my background and he just gave me an endless slew of workplace advice, introduced me to his colleagues and became an important job reference for me. His advice led to me eventually getting a job, not that I knew him particularly. I had another friend/mentor who used to be my manager at one of my very first jobs, and when I was in interviews for my absolute dream job, I had texted him at very short notice to ask for some interviewing advice. He dropped everything to sit down with me for hours and go over every job interviewing trick in the book, and then at the end he thanked me for reaching out. I didn't end up getting that particular position, but both those guys were texting me with 'you'll get the next one!' messages and it meant a lot. I have another mentor, whom I met through a political networking event, who is my go-to for any sort of workplace advice. I've talked to her about workplace drama I've dealt with, and I went to her when I found out that my male colleague, who has less experience and less education than me, was making 15k more than I was. And she sat me down and said here's what you gotta do and gave me the pep talk that pushed me to do it (because man, asking for equal pay is terrifying, and I find as I get older, I'm getting less and less confrontational).

I do think people like helping where they can, especially when you're willing to work your lil' behind off - because I think, for the most part, everyone kinda feels like they've been there, you know? Most people have that time in their lives where they're sending out hundreds of resumes and no one's giving them a chance and the rejection can be so very disheartening. This is why I really don't think you really can boil down the value of networking to the question 'oh, what can you do for me?' because it's so much more than that. On the flip side, just two months ago, I had a university student reach out to me on LinkedIn and ask to meet for coffee - she wanted to get in my field, so of course I met with her. I mean, sure, it's flattering for a young person to reach out to you and want to pick your brain for tidbits of knowledge, but at the end of the day, my mentors have been so absurdly generous with their time and their kindness; I have *no* possible way to repay that kindness but by paying it forward. A practise of gratitude, I guess.


Well when you put it that way! haha

I didn't mean to twist what you were trying to say in your initial post! My mind was in a negative place in my last post. To some extent 'getting ahead' in your job is a way of social networking though, especially when you don't utilize better outlets like intern work or a university- which are two things that I really need to try doing.
 
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La Femme Fatale

The Queen
Moderator
I hear you. Are you currently in this job that you don't enjoy, or was it a previous one?

Also - perhaps try volunteering? I got my current job through volunteering... my boss never saw a resume, just hired me after I volunteered for a few months. It's a good way to get your foot in the door at a non-profit or something like that. :)
 
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