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Well I definitely have zero interest in watching the latest Star Wars now...I was sure I wouldn't see it before but after reading all that, yeah I'm done.

It's a cash cow and I'll only ever have time for Rogue One, the original trilogy and, of course, the epic Droids and Ewoks cartoons of my youth.

Keeping on topic here, I've just finished Once Upon A Time In Hollywood and I have literally no idea what was going on or why I have now lost almost three hours of my life that I can never get back. What a load of self-indulgent crap.
 

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I saw A Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood yesterday and it was really not what I expected, but it made me enjoy it all the more. I am usually pretty tough when it comes to movies, but that film had my eyes leaking for a good portion of it. It just wouldn't stop even when nothing major was going on. It is not a biopic on Fred Rogers at all. It is the story about how he intervened in peoples lives and improved them, their relationships, and piece by piece... changed the world. I loved it, but I don't know if it is everybody's cup of tea. It was certainly charming.

As for TV, right now, me and the misses are binging Mr. Selfridge. I love it. She is a sucker for quality BBC shows and I think that concept of watching a semi-true tale of one of London's most well known Department stores come alive is very unique. Jeremy Piven is unique in it. I am excited to binge the rest!
 

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I saw A Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood yesterday and it was really not what I expected, but it made me enjoy it all the more. I am usually pretty tough when it comes to movies, but that film had my eyes leaking for a good portion of it. It just wouldn't stop even when nothing major was going on. It is not a biopic on Fred Rogers at all. It is the story about how he intervened in peoples lives and improved them, their relationships, and piece by piece... changed the world. I loved it, but I don't know if it is everybody's cup of tea. It was certainly charming.

As for TV, right now, me and the misses are binging Mr. Selfridge. I love it. She is a sucker for quality BBC shows and I think that concept of watching a semi-true tale of one of London's most well known Department stores come alive is very unique. Jeremy Piven is unique in it. I am excited to binge the rest!
A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood is probably the second best film of the year if you'd ask me, after Uncut Gems. I had pretty much the exact same experiance and takeaway as you did.
 

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Not exactly a traditional trailer, but I'm sold anyway!

(I just wish she would stop knocking on my door already, it's noisy and I've told her several times to come in.)

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Mmm, yeah! I feel like Netflix has the weirdest scheduling of any streaming service. Sabrina Season 3 is going to be amazing though!
 
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Batman vs. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles…I am so envious of my daughter. She gets to grow up in a time where a feature length animated film like this is not only a reality, but the norm. This was the kind of thing we would dream about while debating on the bus too and from school when I was a child. And as an adult, my love for the Turtles has never faded.

I watched this movie last night, and I am very happy I did. In the first 12 minutes we had Batman fight the Shredder, actual bloody henchman deaths, Batman BODY the Turtles, so many other fan service moments. 11 minutes, 52 seconds. That was when I knew I would be hooked for the remaining hour and 20 minutes. Right off the bat one thing I noticed was they were not pulling punches for younger audiences. In this first ten minutes you see Raphael knee a dude in the face, and blood GUSH from it. You also see Batman about to interrogate a foot soldier, only for a ninja star to land squarely in said soldier’s forehead, killing him, and leaking his crimson life juice. I haven’t seen this much violence in the TMNT since their actual comics.

And comic references on both sides are ABUNDANT. Again, this movie gives us so much fan service. Things like Mr. Freeze saying “Chill Out,” prompting Michaelangelo to talk about how cool Ice Puns are, which if you don’t know, is a reference to the movie that made God abandon us as a species, Batman and Robin. Or this one moment a few seconds before where Freeze shoots ice blasts at Mikey, and he bats them away with his nunchucks, then poses with one hand out. Direct reference to how he is introduced in the opening credits of the classic 1987 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon. Which is somehow better written, more adult, and have driven less people to kill themselves violently and publicly as the aforementioned Batman and Robin movie did. My personal favorite reference in the movie is near the climax, when the Turtle Van (Yeah, that’s right! The Turtle van is in Gotham kids!) and Batmobile are racing through the streets, and Donatello exclaims “Bossa Nova!” To anyone that hasn’t devoted their life to memorizing all the lines of dialogue from every Ninja Turtle movie ever made, like an autistic archeologist memorizing everything written on the Dead Sea Scrolls, that doesn’t even sound like a reference. Just sounds like something a dumb teenager would shout, thinking he was cool. However, what it’s actually referencing is in the live action film when the Turtles successfully fought off the Foot, and are all celebrating, that’s what Donnie shouts, and Mikey and Leo make fun of him for it.

This movie is great. Even without all the references. With things like Damien Wayne, Batman’s Rouges teaming up with the Foot Clan, the character personalities all being beautifully intact and written, I have a lot I loved. But I also had some stuff that was so bad, I would have rather been getting a prostate exam from The Incredible Hulk in Central Park. The Turtles character designs are AWFUL. While their personalities are perfect…Their look is just dumb. Granted, this movie does have a more cartoon-y art style, which fits it for what it is, the brothers four themselves are harder to look at than a fusion between Deadpool and Spawn left out in the sun for a few weeks. Couple that with Raph’s bad voice and I’m reminded every time he speaks that this movie is far from perfect. It’s not that the voice actor himself is bad. But we all know Raphael as the rough and tumble bad boy of the group. He’s ALWAYS had the deepest voice. I’m pretty sure Damien freakin’ Wayne has a more mature sounding voice in this film. There are also plenty of times in the movie where Donatello’s headband looks far more blue than purple, making it almost look like there’s two Leonardos on screen. And my last complaint, and probably the one that is honestly the most petty, but it drove me up a wall, was how inconsistent everyone’s pronunciation of Ra’s al Ghul was. I know in some TV shows it’s been pronounced as “Rawz” while others have said “Ray-sh”. But for different actors to say it so differently in the SAME movie, while talking with one another. It just seems like a huge oversight. Like…was there no quality control team listening to the voice actors give their lines so we could have some consistency? This is Warner Bros we’re talking about…So actually…Probably not. They were probably tied up by the Animaniacs and stuffed in a broom closet somewhere never to be heard from again. Which…would ALSO be an awesome crossover FYI.

To round out this incredibly long and unnecessary stream of consciousness, if you’re a fan of either franchise, or both, go watch this movie. You won’t be disappointed. If you’re not a fan of either of these franchises. Your childhood sucked, and I really don’t wanna hear your opinion either, unless it’s why Superman is objectively better than Batman.
 

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Batman vs. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles…I am so envious of my daughter. She gets to grow up in a time where a feature length animated film like this is not only a reality, but the norm. This was the kind of thing we would dream about while debating on the bus too and from school when I was a child. And as an adult, my love for the Turtles has never faded.

I watched this movie last night, and I am very happy I did. In the first 12 minutes we had Batman fight the Shredder, actual bloody henchman deaths, Batman BODY the Turtles, so many other fan service moments. 11 minutes, 52 seconds. That was when I knew I would be hooked for the remaining hour and 20 minutes. Right off the bat one thing I noticed was they were not pulling punches for younger audiences. In this first ten minutes you see Raphael knee a dude in the face, and blood GUSH from it. You also see Batman about to interrogate a foot soldier, only for a ninja star to land squarely in said soldier’s forehead, killing him, and leaking his crimson life juice. I haven’t seen this much violence in the TMNT since their actual comics.

And comic references on both sides are ABUNDANT. Again, this movie gives us so much fan service. Things like Mr. Freeze saying “Chill Out,” prompting Michaelangelo to talk about how cool Ice Puns are, which if you don’t know, is a reference to the movie that made God abandon us as a species, Batman and Robin. Or this one moment a few seconds before where Freeze shoots ice blasts at Mikey, and he bats them away with his nunchucks, then poses with one hand out. Direct reference to how he is introduced in the opening credits of the classic 1987 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon. Which is somehow better written, more adult, and have driven less people to kill themselves violently and publicly as the aforementioned Batman and Robin movie did. My personal favorite reference in the movie is near the climax, when the Turtle Van (Yeah, that’s right! The Turtle van is in Gotham kids!) and Batmobile are racing through the streets, and Donatello exclaims “Bossa Nova!” To anyone that hasn’t devoted their life to memorizing all the lines of dialogue from every Ninja Turtle movie ever made, like an autistic archeologist memorizing everything written on the Dead Sea Scrolls, that doesn’t even sound like a reference. Just sounds like something a dumb teenager would shout, thinking he was cool. However, what it’s actually referencing is in the live action film when the Turtles successfully fought off the Foot, and are all celebrating, that’s what Donnie shouts, and Mikey and Leo make fun of him for it.

This movie is great. Even without all the references. With things like Damien Wayne, Batman’s Rouges teaming up with the Foot Clan, the character personalities all being beautifully intact and written, I have a lot I loved. But I also had some stuff that was so bad, I would have rather been getting a prostate exam from The Incredible Hulk in Central Park. The Turtles character designs are AWFUL. While their personalities are perfect…Their look is just dumb. Granted, this movie does have a more cartoon-y art style, which fits it for what it is, the brothers four themselves are harder to look at than a fusion between Deadpool and Spawn left out in the sun for a few weeks. Couple that with Raph’s bad voice and I’m reminded every time he speaks that this movie is far from perfect. It’s not that the voice actor himself is bad. But we all know Raphael as the rough and tumble bad boy of the group. He’s ALWAYS had the deepest voice. I’m pretty sure Damien freakin’ Wayne has a more mature sounding voice in this film. There are also plenty of times in the movie where Donatello’s headband looks far more blue than purple, making it almost look like there’s two Leonardos on screen. And my last complaint, and probably the one that is honestly the most petty, but it drove me up a wall, was how inconsistent everyone’s pronunciation of Ra’s al Ghul was. I know in some TV shows it’s been pronounced as “Rawz” while others have said “Ray-sh”. But for different actors to say it so differently in the SAME movie, while talking with one another. It just seems like a huge oversight. Like…was there no quality control team listening to the voice actors give their lines so we could have some consistency? This is Warner Bros we’re talking about…So actually…Probably not. They were probably tied up by the Animaniacs and stuffed in a broom closet somewhere never to be heard from again. Which…would ALSO be an awesome crossover FYI.

To round out this incredibly long and unnecessary stream of consciousness, if you’re a fan of either franchise, or both, go watch this movie. You won’t be disappointed. If you’re not a fan of either of these franchises. Your childhood sucked, and I really don’t wanna hear your opinion either, unless it’s why Superman is objectively better than Batman.
Didn't take you for a big TMNT fan. I loved this movie so much. It's been rough being a Ninja Turtles fan for a long time. Between the awful live action films and that goddamn abysmal Rise of the Ninja Turtles cartoon, I have 0 faith that Ninja Turtles will ever be as great as it was in 2003, which after everything that's happened with the property since, seems like a f*cking miracle that it ever existed. I rank it up there with both Batman: The Animated Series and X-Men. But this movie and the NECA figures of the 1990 film are by far my favorite thing about Ninja Turtles at the minute.

But I swear to god, my brother and I willed this damn movie into existence just like we did Turtles Forever. He grew up in the height of Turtle Mania in the 80s and 90s and I got to catch some of that through him and then the 2003 series came out and we'd often bicker and debate over which series was better and stay up at night talking about the show. He even f*cking predicted the Slayer would become the Rat King somehow. But one thing we'd always talk about was "my" show crossing over with "his." It was nothing but a pipe dream that literally no one else shared, but we'd often come up with ideas for how it could work but we'd ultimately dismiss the possibility because why the hell would that ever happen?

Now this. We'd always talk about how cool it would be for Batman and the Ninja Turtles to crossover and we'd always have debates over that too. Y'know, your typical who would win scenarios and whatnot, but once again, the impossible dream became reality when the comic crossover was announced, and being massive fans of the animated DC movies, we've always expressed how much we wanted this comic to jump onto animation but it once again felt like an impossible task due to licensing. It honestly feels like just yesterday we've talked about wanting this to happen and it's still f*cking amazing to think we live in a world where this happened. Now if only I could win the lottery.

I'm glad you enjoyed it though, no need to thank me either (y'know, for willing it into existence), but you're welcome anyway. I was initially put off by the designs as well. Thought they were gonna make it kid friendly because Ninja Turtles and Nickelodeon, but holy sh*t, the blood and violence was totally unexpected. The designs even grew on me and looked so much better in motion, with the exception of Donnie who just looks completely f*cking odd with that perfectly round head. Not my ideal look for the Ninja Turtles, but much better than the designs of the last 2 cartoons.

My brother and I wouldn't stop grinning at each other every time we'd pick up on references. My favorite is by far the way Shredder drops into frame to fight Batman exactly like he did in the 1990 film. That fight is still my favorite thing about this whole movie, and the 80s synth soundtrack was really amazing too. Wish they would have used Splinter in this too, so he could humble Batman like he did in the comic. Would love to see that in a sequel. I was also extremely bothered by the flip flop pronunciation of Ra's. Troy Baker did his best Kevin Conroy impersonation, but his failure to pronounce Ra's correctly was a dead giveaway it wasn't the legendary Batman voice.
 

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Didn't take you for a big TMNT fan. I loved this movie so much. It's been rough being a Ninja Turtles fan for a long time. Between the awful live action films and that goddamn abysmal Rise of the Ninja Turtles cartoon, I have 0 faith that Ninja Turtles will ever be as great as it was in 2003, which after everything that's happened with the property since, seems like a f*cking miracle that it ever existed. I rank it up there with both Batman: The Animated Series and X-Men. But this movie and the NECA figures of the 1990 film are by far my favorite thing about Ninja Turtles at the minute.

But I swear to god, my brother and I willed this damn movie into existence just like we did Turtles Forever. He grew up in the height of Turtle Mania in the 80s and 90s and I got to catch some of that through him and then the 2003 series came out and we'd often bicker and debate over which series was better and stay up at night talking about the show. He even f*cking predicted the Slayer would become the Rat King somehow. But one thing we'd always talk about was "my" show crossing over with "his." It was nothing but a pipe dream that literally no one else shared, but we'd often come up with ideas for how it could work but we'd ultimately dismiss the possibility because why the hell would that ever happen?

Now this. We'd always talk about how cool it would be for Batman and the Ninja Turtles to crossover and we'd always have debates over that too. Y'know, your typical who would win scenarios and whatnot, but once again, the impossible dream became reality when the comic crossover was announced, and being massive fans of the animated DC movies, we've always expressed how much we wanted this comic to jump onto animation but it once again felt like an impossible task due to licensing. It honestly feels like just yesterday we've talked about wanting this to happen and it's still f*cking amazing to think we live in a world where this happened. Now if only I could win the lottery.

I'm glad you enjoyed it though, no need to thank me either (y'know, for willing it into existence), but you're welcome anyway. I was initially put off by the designs as well. Thought they were gonna make it kid friendly because Ninja Turtles and Nickelodeon, but holy sh*t, the blood and violence was totally unexpected. The designs even grew on me and looked so much better in motion, with the exception of Donnie who just looks completely f*cking odd with that perfectly round head. Not my ideal look for the Ninja Turtles, but much better than the designs of the last 2 cartoons.

My brother and I wouldn't stop grinning at each other every time we'd pick up on references. My favorite is by far the way Shredder drops into frame to fight Batman exactly like he did in the 1990 film. That fight is still my favorite thing about this whole movie, and the 80s synth soundtrack was really amazing too. Wish they would have used Splinter in this too, so he could humble Batman like he did in the comic. Would love to see that in a sequel. I was also extremely bothered by the flip flop pronunciation of Ra's. Troy Baker did his best Kevin Conroy impersonation, but his failure to pronounce Ra's correctly was a dead giveaway it wasn't the legendary Batman voice.
Well, I'm going to thank you anyway. I'll be honest, when I posted this, I knew it would get a reaction of you because of you being a huge Batman fan, but I wasn't sure which side you'd be on XD. I'm glad you dug it as much as I did. As for what gave away that it wasn't Kevin Conroy, I don't remember what it was, but I had a moment like that too. I was just like, "Oh sh*t...That's not Kevin? Damn, I'm impressed." I spent like half the movie thinking it was. Also Dope that you brought up "Turtles Forever," because up until this film, that had been the best thing about the Turtles since the perfection that was Turtles 03.
 

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Okay - which pronunciation of Ra's Al Ghul do you prefer?

I still say Razz Al Ghul, but I am pretty sure the "correct" way is Rayshe Al Ghul. But I am not going to stop saying Razz either way. haha
 

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Okay - which pronunciation of Ra's Al Ghul do you prefer?

I still say Razz Al Ghul, but I am pretty sure the "correct" way is Rayshe Al Ghul. But I am not going to stop saying Razz either way. haha
The original creators and Batman: TAS say Raysh, so I say Raysh.
But then again, the creator of the .gif format pronounces it Jiff and I hate it, so I don't feckin' know. Say whatever feels more natural.
 

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They call him Razz on Arrow, and I assume that to be the correct pronunciation. The alternative sounds to me like an Americanised version, because no other language I know pronounces the "a" like the English language does.
 

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Just put the Arabic (راس الغول) into Google Translate and the text-to-speech lady pronounces it like "Ross Al-Ghul".

Neat.
 

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They call him Razz on Arrow, and I assume that to be the correct pronunciation. The alternative sounds to me like an Americanised version, because no other language I know pronounces the "a" like the English language does.
Raysh is the Hebrew pronunciation.
 

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It is? Okay, Hebrew isn't one of the languages I know, so I stand corrected. But then I wonder why they write it the way they do in the Latin alphabet. When you see Russian names written in non-Cyrillic letters, those letters are usually put together to create the correct sounds, which may vary from language to language. (For example, the Russian name "Ivanov" would be written as "Iwanow" in German because the English "v" sound is a "w" in German.) But then comes the Hebrew (?) name Ra's, which expects you to pronounce the "a" like you would in English, and the "s" like you would in Hungarian, and why is there an apostrophe in the first place? Weird.
 

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After a little research, here is a more in depth analysis of this issue I found from a GameFaqs Forum:

'I'm Lebanese and speak Arabic, so perhaps I can clarify this. "Raysh" is actually referring to the Hebrew version of the letter R, "Resh," which means "head" or "chief." The Arabic contrast to Resh is "Ra," and it too means "head."

In Arabic, you'd pronounce "Ra's" like "Raw-uhss."

Ra's = Head
al = of the (or simply "the")
Ghul = Demon/Ghoul

Ra's al Ghul = The Demon's Head or Head of the Demon

Denny O'Neil apparently researched how to pronounce Ra's al Ghul. For whatever reason, he chose to use "Resh" rather than "Ra's," and that ended up giving the character an Arabic/Hebrew hybrid of a name. I'm not sure what the Hebrew word for "demon" is, so I can't say whether or not you'd pronounce the "al Ghul" part the same way.

Really, you can use either version and you'd be correct, but to me personally, it comes across really awkward for Ra's to be pronounced "Resh/Raysh," and I tend to always use the Arabic pronunciation as it sounds a lot smoother and fitting for a character like Ra's al Ghul IMO. '

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The original creators and Batman: TAS say Raysh, so I say Raysh.
But then again, the creator of the .gif format pronounces it Jiff and I hate it, so I don't feckin' know. Say whatever feels more natural.
They pronounce it Rayshe in Batman: Arkham City as well.

Though Razz just feels like the more natural pronunciation to me. It's also the pronunciation they used for him in the Nolan Batman trilogy.
 

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Lol...Wow...I'm loving how awesome the discussion is on this, because I definitely learned a lot. Thanks! As for what @UniqTeas asked, about my preference, I guess I'd have to saw "Rawwz" if I had to pick, but I'm good with either, as long as it's being pronounced the same way consistently amongst the characters.

IDK how many of you know this, but my favorite entertainment medium of all time is Stand Up Comedy. I listen to it at work. While I'm playing video games. I go to comedy clubs. I write my own that I can never perform due to my work schedule being night time. I'll take Stand-Up over anything else. So when I found a documentary entitled "I Need You To Kill," which followed Chad Daniels, Tom Segura, and Pete Lee, I was immediately interested. However, once the documentary set up their reason for following the three guys, I was even MORE involved. You see, there's a famous comedy club in Minneapolis called "Acme Comedy Co," and it's ran by Louis Lee. Louis is Asian American, from Hong Kong. When you think of China, you really don't exactly think of their Stand Up scene. Because they don't really have one. At the time of this documentary, it had only started budding in the last few years, and was comparable to the American stand up scene in the 80's. So to watch these three American headlining Road Rats, bring their three very different, very distinctive styles to Asia? It was very enthralling to watch. The fact that a lot of the big cities are Business Hubs, so everyone knows English and can understand the jokes? Mind blowing. The lack of cultural disconnect, making "Funny" a universal language, had me glued to the TV. Seeing them interact with other Asian comedians, who mostly did open mic nights, still figuring it out, was enlightening because it was almost like Karate Kid, but in reverse. The old Asian Master teaches the American kid how to become strong. Now, it's the Old American Master, teaching these young wide eyed Asian hopefuls tricks for staying in the game. So that dynamic was interesting. The Rivalry between the few Chinese promoters who have comedy clubs noticable, but passive. The view into the scene it gave was just exceptional.

I do have a few small nitpicks. Sometimes the camera is a bit shaky, and the audio levels are inconsistent, between the narration sections, the interview sections, and the performance footage sections. But that's almost charming in a way. Like, it's definitely a homegrown documentary. The other gripe is, sometimes I felt like their should have been subtitles for a lot of the Asian comedians that were interviewed. I know they were speaking English, which a lot of them were brilliant at, but there were also many times where the accent was so thick, and they were speaking such excitement and exuberance, I lost what was actually said. This happened more times than I care to admit. Lastly, it was a one week tour, with 3 stops. Hong Kong and Singapore got a lot of screen time. And their cultural differences, as well as differences in the stand up scene, were well highlighted and contrasted with one another. The third and final city, Macau, didn't get that treatment at all. I wish I could know how Macau was different from the other cities that have such a small and new, yet explosive scene.

Those are my thoughts on "I Need You To Kill," and with all of that in mind, I'm gonna give the film an 8/10. I'll actually probably find myself rewatching this now and again, if I'm looking for something stand-up related, but also want something educational.
 

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I'm watching Medical Police on Netflix
 
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